Suz I may have up set you in other threads but never intended to here or there, not all do not understand how hard your job is.
I need to understand,truly do, why some hold views that are, to me, so strange.
Fester asks OUG why he thinks as he does, I could never pretend to know the answer to that.
But here in his own post history you can find reference to smoking other than tobacco, in truth many do/have but overuse can do great harm.
I have noted insults from OUG watched from his first post here,tried to understand and welcome him.
Not easy some times but there are some thoughts worth looking at in his posts.
A bitterness and willingness to target others has ended my interest in his posts.
But have we noticed the wish that smokers be free to continue?
And the blindness to the costs imposed on us all?
Far more than one poster tells of the right do do as you wish.
Others say let them pay their own health bills.
We are better than that, never would do that, but should we sponsor self harm.

I'm right with you, 95% of the way suzeonline. But this, I cannot accept.

>>I don't blame the tobacco addicts for their habit at all.<<

That is the excuse that many smokers use. I did not expect to hear it from a nurse. It actually says to the smoker "you are powerless", when in fact each and every one of them could give up tomorrow. For ever.

It is also a variant of the pitch used by companies who sell products that are supposed to help you give up smoking. The assumption is "you can't help yourself, we know, so buy our chewing gum/patches/inhalers/microtabs etc". A few seconds thought will tell you that these companies would actually go out of business, if their products were effective.

So - like you - they perpetuate the myth that giving up is something out of the individual's control. It isn't.

It is as simple as... not smoking that next cigarette.

the prominant theme of the big be-lie
is about my stealing his money
..""Should we pay for others folly's.""

and the fact is far from it
he is stealing mine

he becan this war
knowing im a smoker activist

continually throwing up my FORMER use
of cannabis as some sort of talism..

and the addition of CLAIMING..not reading my posts[thus ignoring trying to reply to them...

its a clever stadgedy..but obvious to many

to reply fester do i think its addictive...lol
yes mate it is..in fact has been made even more addictive..as a deliberated policy

is it injurous..yes it is..[ya think they add sulpher to it to make it burn
then legislate adding in other chemicals to stop drunks burning themselves to death in their beds

yes mate its all they say and more
belly reads my posts..but resists replying them
yet he takes studious notes..to throw back into my face as he choses

this should indicate much about the one
who began this thread with the teaaser words..'nanny state?'

yes it is mate

'what do 'we' ban next'
lol mate you think yoyu and yer
mugg antidrug party ..are so omnipotant

so clever at red herrings
but i dont hate you..[as im dying i got no time to hate anyone]

not even the lobby..nor the legal drug merchants ..nor the docters that perscribe their adictive /destructive drugs ,nor the lawyer polititions and the anti-smoking lobby ..cleaning up on this colluded scam..to kill off smokers

i dont even hate those who ripped me off..[more about that later]
but for now im in pain..going to take the only drug i take [nicoteen]...and hope i die sooner rather than later..

i have seen heard felt enough pain in satans realm
im ready to move on

ya cant argue ..with those serving satan
cant even recall why i even botherd to try

it is worth noting
the last few words
of this post
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4306#109271

[its about the fat controler ..[be-lie]..saying he reads
but wont respond]

something that has become obvious
as previously noted..by his commenting on stuff i posted..but he claims not to have read..[or not read..'anymore'..lol]

the post basiclly advises bobbon on the new policy
no comment...[ie ignore them ..and we will go away]

its the scam thread
so i added a few of the last scams

i did mention the super scam in detail
but didnt mention the 2yk scam nor the birdflue aids swine flue tobacco scams nor the levey scams...
nor the other scams or the 6 levies from the howard fears years

but the list of scams are extensive..
if you bother looking for them

nbm is the latest
we voted for to the node
then got a 46 billion white elephant

soon its the carbon tax
and the levy...[its so sad you lot who claim to be so clever
dont keep note of these things

but its not your fault we get liars running destractions
did you lot even notice italy stock market is closed today
seems libia owns mabny italian shares

any wonder europe is staying silent..on the libia genocide
GOING ON NOW...[while the usa pres is on ANOTHER off season 'holiday'

its sad you all miss whats going down
ya getting continualy fed fear based scams
then asked to bailout bankers or greenies or drunks

i hope you enjoy your stay in these realm
where decievers rule the roost..serve their satanistic adgendas

my life sentance to this hell is near over
but yours is only just beginning

Ban tobacco?

It must be just an easy one to focus on, lots of good emotive pics and statements in the media about smoking. We can now live to 100 if we don’t do it? I’m not sure where the logic in that is.

Lung cancer isn’t a nice death? Then let a person choose at which point and how they die without it being a crime. I’m sure there are many types of deaths not blamed on smoking that aren’t particularly pleasant.

I actually have a very sensitive nose; in a previous life I may have worked making perfume. I can even smell if a person has a mild infection somewhere on their body and other things humans leak from them from quite a distance. Being in public is not pleasant for me especially around other women.

Tobacco really is not bad; the smoke it generates isn’t offensive. It’s funny how we’ve been conditioned so quickly to find it “bad”. As a kid it was a normal smell in a home, I’m a bit scared about how advertising can alter what we find offensive.

Can organic tobacco be purchased anywhere?

There are more obvious and more dangerous substances out there and I would appreciate it if the big brains in the world removed them first.

Alcohol and other mood altering drugs I thought would be more of a priority.

Addictive and unhealthy foods maybe and those crappy bloody soft drinks that make kids go nuts.

People with serious genetic defects being allowed to breed (just thought I’d slip that in).

Other chemicals, vehicle exhaust fumes, poisons in the environment etc.

STINKY PEOPLE!

And please, for the love of god – perfumed period pads and all deodorants.

I listened to an interesting interview on the radio last night.

Smoking has reduced from 35% 20yrs ago to about 17% today. The levels of smoking is projected to drop close to zero by 2035.

This enables smokers to wean themselves off the habit, and the government to wean itself off the its addiction to tobacco taxes.