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Tobacco Should we Ban it?

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oh dear [twofaced tony]..currently in parlement
'just said mates help each other
they dont tax each other'

this from him who gave labrats party
the idea of the extra smoking tax
[no doudt given to both of them ..by the antismoking lobby]

who now got subsidy for nicteen-gum/patches

but lets move on

here is some info re big pharma
[you know those with the big govt bucks/subsiodies globally
who control lawyers and laws..who pay big bucks for docters to study drugs and make reports or plot and plan..[who own the media..and are experts at sin and spin]

quote

Nearly all drug trials scientifically invalid due to influence of the mind; Big Pharma science dissolves into wishful thinking

http://www.naturalnews.com/031451_drug_trials_placebo_effect.html

A new study in Science Translational Medicine
has cast doubt over the scientific validity of nearly all randomized, double-blind placebo controlled studies involving pharmaceuticals used on human beings.

It turns out that many pharmaceuticals only work
because people expect them to,
not because they have any "real" chemical effect on the body.

As you'll see here, when test subjects were told that they were not receiving painkiller medications..even though they were*

*the medication proved to be completely worthless.

END quote

so tell me
what does a docter saying
'YOU GOING T0 DIE'

do to the mindless drones ..seeing the quack?
and who reek of smoke?

remember ..all you X smokers
how many times ..you went to the docters
and they said ..'YOU GOING TO DIE'

were they right?..
[brain-dead ..dont count]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 9:01:34 AM
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(PhysOrg.com) -- Every year, millions of people are diagnosed with cancer - a remarkably high number.

But what about the flipside of those statistics?

That is, two out of three people *never get cancer,

and more than half of heavy smokers *don’t get cancer, either.

A recent study points out this overlooked fact,
and suggests that researchers might discover something by asking why so many people are resistant*.. to the often deadly disease.

http://www.physorg.com/news151840958.html

YOU MIGHT ALSO ASK YOURSELF
why govt media and your docter REFUSES to tell you this?

oh by the buy..the cure for cancer
[but why fight it]
is high ph

all you need to do ..to kill it[if your of the 1 in 3 who COULD get it
is take a teaspoon of baking soda[baking powder]each day
and the cancer goes away

cancer can also be sucked out of your body
using electrolisis...and one c cell battery
you hook up the anode to your body..[usually by sitting in a 'bath'..and the cathode to the cancer location

and it melts away

but no its more mobney to let people die long slow deaths
then get a donation off their estates..when they eventually and needlessly die

but then again ..some of us know too much
and are over this living scam
thus chose to let it be

and let the chips fall where they will
[you chose to be ill]
docters get their pay by study of the sick
they should be studying the healthy..to find out why they didnt get sick

but in the end its all about money
some will do anything to get their hands on yours

but you wont get bellies
he earned it...its his..he dont care who gets taxed..
as long as its not him..typical unionist thinking..me me me mine
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 9:39:05 AM
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oh...and if you wanna know why the war on drugs
is mainly a war on a plant

try this link
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=cannabis+cures+cancer&btnG=Google+Search

see if im ever going to allow my cancer to kill me
i had*to give up dope

but docters dont want people ..*not getting sick
so they support the war on a weed/plant
and those staying healthy ..by smoking dope

because you getting sick
makes them rich

its all about money
welcome to hell

and you thought govt was there for your bennifit
heck dont think lawyers[ie your leaders]..dont know this stuff
i wasted 10 years of nmy life telling them

believe me
they know

and still let you learn lies from deceptive adverts
aimed at you to get you into fear

to get more tax

thery dont just send the kids to die in war
recall the drug war..thats aimed at keeping you sick
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 9:48:41 AM
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*It is as simple as... not smoking that next cigarette.*

Ah Pericles, you mean as simple as losing those extra
kilos, just eat less. No need for Jenny Craig and all the
rest. No need for all those fatties in society, costing
us a fortune in health bills.

If only the human mind and how it works were that simple.

But nice try.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:02:50 AM
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One under god:
Herein is my conspiracy theory for you!

...You apparently live in a world where a choice is going to the doctor. Where I live, going to a doctor is a recipe for starvation. Effectively, one runs the risk of dying from a doctors treatment or dying from lack of it. I agree with you: The decision is quite the conundrum.

...I am acquainted with people who live a life of addiction to a rainbow spectrum of substances. Many of them addictive pharmacy prescriptions, and needing that unaffordable visit to the local Capitalist stalwart (Doctor), for the purpose of repeats.

...So I wonder, with the anticipated free (Ho, Ho) issue of patches becoming available shortly for smokers, and in view of the facts pointed out by Shadow Minister and Ferster in these posts, that the incidence of smoking in the community is fast decreasing, (17% of the population), then what is behind the free (Ho, Ho) issue of anti-smoking paraphernalia.

...Should one take the cynical view, and conclude from observation and experience, the real intent of the medical profession is to enrich “themselves” from the physical suffering of the ever diminishing smoking public, by tying Doctors to a lucrative market of desperados returning through their revolving doors, being the gullible and conned smoker, thinking the Government actually cares about them and their health; but which secretly supports further rorting by Doctors now anticipating another windfall improvement to their “bottom-line”.

...Maybe the innovation exposes itself as just another masterstroke of political lobby by the AMA?
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:42:25 AM
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Personally I avoid smokers like the plague. Can't stand the stuff, but as much as I would love to ban smoking I would not go down that path.

As others have wisely pointed out, there are many activities humans undertake that cost others in supporting those endeavours including daredevil adventurers, overeaters, overexercisers, drug users, dangerous drivers etal.

It is almost impossible to ban an activity once it has been legalised or entrenched hence a lesson in why we should not legalise any other unhealthy or mind altering substances.

The ban on smoking in public places where the offending and unhealthy activity may encroach on another's rights, is only fair but a total ban would not work.

Help people to give up smoking would be more of a benefit to them and to others.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:30:16 AM
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