keep on telling me its posted
but i go to this page and find its not

so here goes again
[3 rd time]

Excessive taxes. How much more will they take from you?
https://www.ideservetobeheard.com.au/home.php

The government has already hit you with a 25% tax increase on your cigarettes in April 2010. How much more will they take from you? It’s time to get involved, speak up and say enough is enough.

Did you know?

As of February 2011, about two thirds of the $18.25 recommended retail price for Peter Jackson 30s is government tax.

Less than 1% of tobacco excise taxes is put towards preventative health measures such as anti-smoking campaigns. (Source: National Preventative Health Taskforce, Technical Report 2, 2008)

The recommended retail price of Peter Jackson 30s has increased by 109% since 2000.

The real price of cigarettes has tripled since 1983. (Source: National Preventative Health Taskforce, Technical Report 2, 2008)

Now’s your chance to write to your local MP to say NO to more tobacco tax increases, NO to more bans on smoking outdoors and NO to plain packaging of cigarettes.

Click here to send a letter to your local MP.
https://www.ideservetobeheard.com.au/getInvolved/writeLegislator.php

Still keeping the thread going OUG?
Sorry bloke but you Will not win.
Its in the numbers mate.
30% is it? smoke.
The smell if not health concerns would stop more than than helping here.
We differ on this, sorry but that is life, not because I am an ex smoker, in truth I wanted to give it up for 15 years before I did.
But because I think dirty tactics tobacco firms are using, and my continuing health concerns about the habit I think more tax and new packs will be a great outcome from this.
If tobacco lawyers go too hard our government should review outlawing it all together.

mate the lies are all on your mob
polititions [2 party liars]

on last nights 7 pm project
the former docter lobbiest [roxin]

who next is attacking packaging of smokes
with dirty pictures on it
[pictures that will need be proving
to be..what they claim to be in court...SOON*]

completly ignoring the problems
of adverse reaction to *perscribed drugs
killing one in 10 hospitalised for adverse reaction

[as well as the numbers needed to treat/number...
[where the number that need to take
a given subsidised medication
to achieve just one cure..is revealed]

that reveals most of the heavilly
lobbied for subsidised drugs

only work in 1
in one hundred cases

ie 100 need to take the drug
for one cure

anyhow back to
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2F7pmproject.com.au%2F&ei=TC6eTe3uDMODcN-zofEB&usg=AFQjCNGRT5IxM8tSfsbb8nImZQpbzjJa-Q&sig2=VPpKs4hZcVt6sO1ZU5AV7g

the weazel faced host
asked rocks-on..

what was the medical cost of smoking..[669 million]
and how much the INCREASE was taking in..[6 Billion]

and rocks-on replied blah blah blah
social costs =31 billion

to which the rat faced host replied

oh 31 billion
*for medical costs

IE HE WAS SPINNING A LIE

CANT YOU LOT
TELL SOMEONE IS SELLING us all..SPIN?

since when is social cost=medical cost?
social cost is AT BEST a guess

..CAUSE of death..
CANNOT be 'smoking'...

[ie if you die of cancer..WRITE cancer
if you die of heart atack..WRITE heart attack]

CAUSE of death
cannot be ...tHE ACT of smoking

yes i know you hate smoking

but just think
i hate drinking..

when booze goes plain lable
and you pay HUGE PUNITIVE..taxes on booze

i will be laughing TOO

all docters/polititions/medias..ARE LYING

no autopsies are conducted
the death numbers..are hiding LIES

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Costs
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11850&page=0
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11850&page=0

thing is mate everything from ya numbers
to the cure is a lie

why ya think howard bought the shares in 'big tobacco'
with the pension retirement plan
as well as the liberal party funds

then the libs put the idea into parlement
collusions big time bother

labrats run with it
roxan is a docter
[you know whicj 'big business they serve]

the same ones cleaning up with persribed drugs
[now running out of patent right thus loosing big govt subsidy

it wont be too hard to find a smoking gun
plenty of witness..[no wonder howard wanmted to hold shares to sit on the board]..but just in the board minutes is plenty of proof of intention to decieve

you got no idea how dep patent right ties into product
if big tobacco looses its comercial rights
thats it for ALL the other brand names

i hope govt goes ahead
it will only ensure the end of the two party system
as well as big busness subsidy from govt

then you get the angry smokers LIED TO
mate LIED TO..

you realise no matter how vile a thing is
NO ONE LIKES A LIER

its just unaustralian

but they are *your mates
your defending lIARS

I have tried, it is just not possible, OUG I wanted to hold conversations with you.
At one stage I thought you where suffering based on your posts here.
Knew you had been duded for your tax free boot leg tobacco.
Made an effort to find out how I could get a few bob to you to buy some tobacco.
Was unable to get that done.
I know how hard it is to want a smoke.
Have seen people really doing it hard, very very, hard,smoking unrolled and re used bumpers.
On one occasion I bought one of those people, my dad a small pack of Rothmans, and enjoyed them just watching him smoke them.
I have every right to think as I wish.
You in my view have been mislead, smoking kills.
We should ban it,tell me.
Tell me should I bow to your mind not my own?
How many smokers truly wish they could give it up?
Mate loosen up, except my rights to be me, as I except yours to be you.

oops siorry i didnt mean to ignore your kindness belly
plerase dont get me wrong..many have offerd to buy me smokes
i have refused them all...the price dont worry me
but govt taxing it
because of lies really gets me going

i will in time givein and pay tax again
but will limit my self to only paying half of the tax i have been paying...the same as i do when other things go up..i simply reduce their income

where i used to by one pack a week
i now make the pack last two weeks

when power went up
i simply halved my power use

they have their games
and i know how to play theirs

im waiting till the packs go plain lable
then will buy up big..just to refute their point

anyhow thats why im back now
sems the olive perople rersent govt calling their new scam 'olive'

on the abc they were just making their points
with new lies..yet again the abc said 31 billion/health costs
when what was meant is social costs..[an accounting term

*including everything attributable to smoking..including buying smokes and days..said to be off work from smoking..even losses in resterants from smoking bans..ie the sum total of EVERYTHING to do with smoking..losses as wel as gains...[including loss of tax income]

NOT HEALTH COSTS

but what ya going to do when govt lies

anyhow have complained to anz
about them facilitating the dude ripping me off

FULL DETAILS SOON

anyhow good offer
but no thanks

thanks mate
but im mostly growing my own now

when i tire of the taste
i will spring for a store bought pack..to lift up the taste

the last pack has lasted 3 weeks..so far

if only the rippoff muggins
had sent me good seed

[or one of them e ciggarette's]
i would gladly forgive him..but till then
he is the one who tried to stop my smoking
this i refuse to do ever..[its a matter of pride]