anyhow talk being cheap
there is little reason to debate with you
*who arnt intrested in truth

[only defending a party..dead in the water..
and so despirite to get a win..its letting the howard adgenda run it from the back seat..the same game howard played..

so its not even origonal]..

to wit addopting opposition policy..
to keep them from getting any traction on any policy

the scaming of the number [social cost 31 billion]..
was done by jonny

the issue raised first by tony..
then adopted by juliar and the health[lol]..minester
serving the 'health' and drug lobby....and quoting jonnies numbers

[no doudt it was his thinking
that bought up shares in lol big tobacco..
so they couldnt complain....ie alp..fooled again

.[recalling how labrats said they would fix health...
;what a joke..waiting times have doubled...
lab-rats couldnt lie straight in bed

anyhow as i said talk is cheap
your offer is as sincere as your party
your real opinion is only revealed later on in your post

but lets move away from your 'sin-cerity..

my complaining to the bank...[about them facilitating fraud/theft
got this response

''Hi Johan,

In relation to your enquiry to this matter,
unfortunately ANZ cannot conduct an investigation
or initiate a dispute into this actual deposit.""

complaint detials later
noting i wasnt disputing depositing it
i was desputing the fraud LIE...crime..

that saw it deposited
into an account by a thief..

that they apparently support in his thievery

""Once we have rec'd the deposit over the counter
as instructed by yourself being the authorised person
to deposit the requested funds to this persons account,""

egsactly requested for a supply of a product..
he never intended to deliver..to wit fraid

""after this we have no control over the transaction"'

bull..they can get the fraud funds out of the account
and return the STOLEN CASH

""and we are not able to retrieve these funds
for you on your behalf."""

ok now to complain to the banking ombudsman

thank you for verifying reciept of the funds obtained via fraud
then i shall go to fed police[to report the crinme
then customs to try to claim my product

then gov general to formalise the crimal theft
lies and collusions of all concerned

""The matter is now up to you to consult with the account owner and follow up on the transaction you have made to this persons account.""

as i told you he is staying silent
[a guilty mind]

and your covering up for his theft
enabling fraud..

ongoing fraud
colluded fraud

as you havnt supplied details of other complaints
from the other injured parties

""I apologise
for not being of further assistance, all the best.""

dont worry mr landine
you are trying to be honest in a corrupt system
run by corrupt money changers[see other posts]

but now i shall forward details on to the ombudsman

as well as publicly post my claim to the tobacco..
and the details of the fraud

full details follow

origonal contact source
http://www.cheapcigarettes.com.au/
please accertain the part played
in the fraud by web host*/server

email details
sent as a result of my ORDER
From: Cheap Cigarettes <netcigarettes@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:51:46 +1100
Subject: RE: New Order - 201102040015374948
To: johanhendrick@edited]

Hi

Thanks for contacting

www.cheapcigarettes.com.au

Please allow 10 business days to receive your order after you transfer
AUD $306.25

1. You can transfer payment using Internet Banking.
2. You can deposit funds into my account at any ANZ Bank branch.

Account Name: ELIAS H TOBAC
BSB: 013 427
Account Number: 571832804

You may direct deposit from your local ANZ Bank;
or just transfer
payment by calling your bank. or transfer money

this was done
to the nanmed acount[as confirmed by mr landine]

noting all details supplied are still active/current
product orded not recieved..and communication suspended by peter

belly quote..""I have every right to think as I wish.""

yes you do mate
i never said you didnt

but mate get your nose out of my business
get it

i dont need no ex union mugg
telling me this lying cccccrap

""You in my view have been mislead, smoking kills.""

in your un-informed vieuw
as you could easy read
were you able to read that posted abouve

you and your mug party and lousy bankers
are colluding to steal by lies and deciete

you are a nanny state soc puppet.. mate
you and your stinking party should go police REAL crime..not honest tax paying smokers

get it you mug?

""We should ban it,tell me.""
that isnt even a proper sentance

go ban unionism..would you let that happern
well im only smoking..

you drunks got your drink
tax that..or tax uionism
get your nose out of my life

""Tell me should I bow to your mind not my own?""

WHY SHOULD I BOW TO YOURS
and yer mug party?

""How many smokers truly wish they could give it up?""
i dont know
HOW MANY DRUNKS
SAY THEY WANT TO GIVE UP?

pot kettle stuff ya mug labrat

""Mate loosen up, except my rights to be me,
as I except yours to be you.""

mate spell check means
your using the wrong words
to say wrong things

try accepting* that you and yer mug party
got no right
to tell me i cant smoke

no exceptions

ACCEPT my rights to be me
ya mug

it works BOTH WAYS get it?

accept you and yer mug party
have gone TOO FAR

just as the anzwankbank didnt go far enough
lets wait till the ombudsman dioes his 'thing'
then ask the gg?

[who should have been asked before govt went too far]
you should ban ignorance..or feel good paternalistic despotism

sorry about using such..big words
growup ya mug..get a life..get ya nose out of mine

ok complaint lodged with banking ombudsman
https://forms.fos.org.au/OnlineDispute

resolution sought

restore the defrauded funds back to me
or deliver a product
or explain why the product couldnt be deliverd

the supplier has ignored all questions
bank says it cant help
yet it facilitated the stealing of my funds
a criminal act...accros state borders

next i got to fed police
once the crime has fully been exposed
thus the need for the web link

ps note
im ticking the first box herunder 'under duress'
as 'this field is required'
ie ''I/We have provided the above information with the knowledge and consent of the account holder/customer."" your noticed it as..'This field is required.''

as i sent both parties an email
of the abouver details..this is as good as done
criminals arnt expected to reply their guilt

are you saying only if the criminal agrees you can investigate

i will refer this to the gg in my final concluding complaint[re process]
see web link

form is playing funny beggers
so emailed copy to
info@fos.org.au

ok next move is fed police SERVICE
see you soon

ps note
i reserve all my rights to recieve product orded
and retain ownership over it..as declared abouve

just to be clear
its my toobacco
i want it now..or compensations shall be sought

when you banned my comfort's
you ended my peace

invalidating your constituted obligation to serve and protect
thus your authority to act over my person or my soul

as a courtecy
i emailed the defaulting toobacco suplier
details previously posted..of my legal actions

he advised the toobacco was sent[now]
i advised him it hasnt arrived
still awaiting his reply

but noted another jury has dismissed ANOTHER govt suing smokers
[thats 3 i heard of this year alone

SUE govt darn it
you will get smoker loyalty
get it?

no pelican
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11850&page=0
I AM NOT LEAP..!

you dont mind breathing diesal smoke
[the biggest cause of cancer

or woodsmoke
the 2 de highest cause of cancer

but its too easy to hate me
you never met me

but..i know your not* a man

anyhow why im here
is yet another jury has found against govts
thinking to blame smoker's and smoking suppliers
for selling a poisen/ causing sickness..health costs etc
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110429-711529.html

[and trying to get yet more cash from..us smokers VIA LIES]
[noting 3/4 people CANNOT EVEN GET CANCER]

see previous posts

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/money/st.-louis-jury-finds-tobacco-companies-not-responsible-for-smokers'-health-costs-dpgonc-20110429-to_12987706

St. Louis Jury Finds Tobacco Companies Not Responsible for Smokers
...29 Apr 2011 ...

Jury Decides Philip Morris USA is Not Liable in Smoking Lawsuit
28 Feb 2003
http://www.tobacco.org/news/118674.html

Snus News & Other Tobacco Products:
Jury decides in favor of ...March 31, 2011

A jury today, March 28th
decided in favour of Philip Morris USA and RJ Reynolds
in the first Engle case to go to trial in Clay County, ...


http://snus-news.blogspot.com/2011/03/jury-decides-in-favor-of-philip-morris.html

our lives are made-up of moments
that we chose to bring into our reality

my point being
it was our choice

its not my fault if your making
what you feel are bad choices

we all get such feelings at times..thus learn from every choice
but learn more from the ones we dont like
than the ones that we do like

then..think of the bits you do like,
ignoring those we dont like

[feel as you will]
for good or ill..
its your choice alone..

you chose how you..

we chose to feel
as WE chose..not you not govt

WHAT WE CHOSE IS NONE OF GOVT's
NOR YOUR BUSINESS...

anyhow as suspected
no tobacco has arrived
and the banking ombudsman is ignoring reply

but such is life..
now to get angry

noted on lasts nights q&a
simon crean...dolling out more cream

to wit
auberry/woodonga getting 65 million for a..
...CANCER CLINIC

sems townsville got one[41 mil]
and we want one too

is anyone seeing a pattern here?
our smoking tax building...BUILDINGS

read on about this global SCAM
realise the why of these wars on smokers

[oh and china has just declared its first shot against
the one thrird chies that smoke..too]

Cancer: The beat of an ancient drum?
By: malterwitty
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/25/cancer-evolution-ancient-toolkit-genes

Forty years ago President Richard Nixon
declared a "war on cancer". [SOUND FAMILIOUR?

Yet in spite of $100bn (£60bn) of taxpayer-funded research
in the US alone,..

the cancer mortality rate remains little changed.

Dozens of much-hyped "cures"
developed by drug companies are either useless
or have marginal effect*.

but there is great..$$$
in building buildings

dont forget to note the cancer cures i posted previously
see the ban smoking topic link..previous posts
that cost less than 5 bucks