When we get carried away
looking at budgetary requirements
we should factor in real*numbers like that..""

lol
see previous speaker

""I got the Parliamentary Library
to conduct some research for me""

who vets the raw research?
can re-search be submitted by lobby?
who fact checks?

""like to thank Dr Sang Giang Phan,
What he was particularly concerned about
was that we should be doing more..to encourage people to kick the habit

*by using the Pharmaceutical_Benefits/Scheme""

the seed
was planted

""we are talking about an addiction,
and kicking an addiction is difficult.""

""and,certainly,people who are addicted
to smoking..know that it is not a matter of choice..for them.""

AND NOW THEY GET THEIR SUBSIDISED ADDICTION
payed for by..*the PBS...

[and who gets the subsidy?]
BIG PHARMA...lol

recall the admission
that tassie..has higher_average..smoking-rate

check this

""The University/of Adelaide
conducted various research studies into smoking.

The important part..that they determined
that, in the Fairfield LGA, 26.1 per percent of males are current smokers and,in Liverpool, at the other end of my electorate, it is 24.5 per cent...""

""Those figures are still well above the national average""lol

NOTE>>>""..of 22 per cent of the community being smokers.

Further, from the university’s figures, 26 per cent of females in the Fairfield LGA and 24½ per cent of females in Liverpool are smokers.""

again picking on the poor

but look at..*the HIGHER numbers
a bit higher than..15% or even 16.6..percent?

numbers spin
[from parlement libary?]
aint it all..just too neat?

""The thing that underlines all this
is that I know that,..of all the deaths of smokers that occur—""

WATCHING?..!

..""whether it is a car-accident,
a heart-attack..or any other tragedy—
50 per cent.....LOL...are* tobacco *related.*""

""I know the changes that are proposed
in the bill..may not be popular with everybody""

but who cares
they dont got..an anti-smoking lobby
on their door..everyday..!

alp
Laura Smyth

""We have heard the Cancer Council’s *..*estimates*
that smoking claims the lives of 15,000
or more Australians every year
and costs our economy around $31.5 billion.""

there you go folks
ESTIMATES*...!

ON SOCIAL COSTS..*
[see next post]...!

from the members own mouth

""There are a great many statistics that can be discussed in this debate,which have been discussed and which will continue to be discussed

It is important that they be quoted regularly because they are so terribly alarming.It is really an unthinkable number of people.""

yet ITS ONLY..A GUESTIMATE..!

""it is why we are making such a concerted effort
to curb cigarette smoking through..a variety of measures""

get the picture
they bought into the GUESTimate..!

keep pushing the lies
and the sheeple swallow it as true

but it can only be an estimate
because it is ONLY attributable*
and we dont autopsy deaths..to find the real cause..!

""The CancerCouncil>>esti-mates*
that 15 per cent of smokers
do not smoke every day""

lol

""targeting smoking rates,
this bill is ...*very *likely.. to benefit those""

weasel word'S?
how about this
HIGHER THAT NATIONAL AVERAGE

[the 3 rd state
ABOUVE_THE NAT AVERAGE]

""It found that in my home state of Victoria,in 2007,
some 19 per cent of the adult population..*were smokers""

lol
anyone keeping track of the numbers?

""The centre also found that 19 per cent of young-adults
in the 18 to 24 age category were smokers

and that 23 per cent of those aged 30 to 39 were smokers.
Obviously these are extremely troubling statistics""

yes your right
THESE NUMBERS TROUBLE ME TOO..!

""...reaching the targets set under the COAG National Healthcare Agreement for reducing smoking rates by 10 per cent by 2018 and halving the Indigenous smoking rate.""

""It will be important in addressing
the health culture..lol.. associated with cigarettes""

"",We have seen that more than half a million fewer people are smoking than were smoking a decade ago...Unfortunately,""

""we know that there are around*
three million Australians..who still smoke.""

""significant measures...They include record funding*
being committed to..targeted*antismoking campaigns""

yes they are doing...*quite nicely
OUT OF THEIR combined..LOBBY eforts

""These measures are very consistent
with the government’s strong approach..to curbing cigarette smoking""

""We certainly know that prevention,
most of the time,..is better than cure""

and having a govt-subsidy
is better than coping..a govt_tax

"There will be,...in the next generation..or so,
a pharmacological*method*..of making people love their servitude,

and producing dictatorship..without tears,so to speak,..producing a kind of painless..concentration-camp..

*for entire societies,

so that people will in fact..have their liberties taken away from them,but will rather enjoy it,..because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel..*by propaganda or pills..

or brainwashing enhanced

*..*!..*by pharmacological methods.*!*!*!

And this..seems to be
the final revolution.""

*SUBSIDISED*
BY GOVT subsidies...!

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Intel_Hub/Intel_Hub.2011-02-28_16k.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTc5mNp3EvE
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23424

And please don't forget:

financial institutions
love GOVT TAX funds]..

no matter who wins or loses,
debt is incurred,and must be repaid!

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23443

Recovery ends
if debt limit not raised:

Webmaster's Commentary:
What recovery?
I certainly do not see it anywhere around here.

The only place in Recovery..is Wall Street!

And Bernanke wants an extension
of his license ...to counterfeit

to keep the party..going
JUST a little-bit longer.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/recovery-ends-if-debt-limit-not-raised-bernanke-2011-03-01?siteid=rss
http://dailybail.com/home/is-ge-the-real-reason-paulson-panicked-in-the-aftermath-of-l.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wildbankers.php
http://whatreallyhappened.com/es/content/ever-wonder-why-european-banks-were-so-angry-us-something-about-not-making-good-some-toxic-g
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/02/government-is-trying-hard-to-convince.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCXGSA-FydU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLx5BwebIDo

next

ALP
Laurie Ferguson

""The Centers for [USA}..Disease-Control..estimate that 443,000 people a year die..in the United States..as a result of cigarette smoking.

That is related to an estimate*
that eight* million Americans
will die.""

""They note:

More deaths..by tobacco use..than by
all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus(HIV),
illegal drug use,alcohol use,motor vehicle injuries,suicides,
and murders combined.""

note what is excluded?

ie..abortions...war..

and..other*..sickness*..

NOTE..{extracted QUOTE
from next speaker}

""Tobacco-related deaths account for
..*approximately*..''15 per cent...*of all deaths""..!

back to previous speaker

''This is indeed a very serious area
of public/policy...

..Our nation has been..at the forefront in this area""

so serious..*disease control center*
*excludes...*other dieases..!

""..perfidious industry.""

meaning:..decietfull and untrustworthy
surely this..is pot/kettle..stuff?

""So there has been very long-term action
by governments in this country...

I think Australia and South-Africa were amongst..the countries that were most draconian..with some of these measures..many decades ago.""

yes ..a selective
hate-base..helps

get racists..to hate smokers
and.. bobs ya uncle..

""The background to this..is a COAG agreement""

""..As I said,the health figures..are very persuasive:""

{smoking is atributable to}..

""...*20 per cent..!
of all cancer-deaths..in general""

""tough regulations have restricted
their*..ability to make money""

and we dole it out..like candy
to those hating..*smokers

NOTE
re indexing
ANNUAL price increases
abouve*indexed/inflation

told you
it would catch on

here in qld
PUBLIC transport prices..*HAVE BEEN INDEXED
for the next 3 years..at 15 %..[compounding]

si told you...!

the media serve the interests of state and corporate power,
which are closely interlinked,..framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly."-- Noam Chomsky

but
back to quotes

ALP
Melissa Parke

""At that time a review of the Tobacco Advertising Prohibition Act,..under the guidance of the then parliamentary secretary for health,Trish Worth,seemed to conclude that no change was required.

I say ‘seemed’..because no report was prepared""

to the public..!

""as a result of the review and the inquiry submissions..
were not made public.""

feed the sheeple spin
have metings in secret

hear the lobby..and make no PUBLIC CONCLUSIONS
sound familour?

""This measure alone""

this new law

""has a double purpose:it adds a significant price disincentive to the purchase of tobacco products,and it will generate an additional $5 billion..over four years to be directly invested*..in better health and hospitals""

ie the anti-smokers..lobby

""through the National Health
and Hospitals Network*Fund.""

SEE MATE
we are subsidising
YOUR HOSPITAL BED>>!

LOL

official?..smoking rate..

""fallen from 19.5 per cent in 2001 to 16.6 per cent in 2007.
That rate is one of the lowest in the world""

ensuring the lobby ..will go overseas
into other lucrative anti smoking lobby-groups
to lobby other govts....to get yet more scemes

to stir racists types
into more ridicule of smokers..

""Let us remember what was set down clearly
in the National Tobacco Strategy 2004-2009 which stated:

Tobacco is a unique consumer item.
Tobacco products cause premature death
and disability when used as intended by the manufacturer; and they are addictive..."""

yes..so why add sugar/salt..and transfats into foods
or caffene and sugar..into softdrink
or codene into headache tablets

we are scammed
LIED TO

we are THE ONLY PROBLEM
not fatties or drunks
[other addicts]

""National Tobacco*Strategy*..2004-2009..makes it clear that
tobacco..is a product that needs to be distinguished*..[read sepperated]..from other products""

..to kill it first..
[to set a precedant]

""and that big tobacco..is a class of corporate citizen
that need to be distinguished*..[EXTINGUISED}..from other corporate citizens""

that we love to serve..!

like those peddlers
of the big macca
or coke is cooler..
or hungry jackin a box

or big pharma selling docters..on a.d.d..to put kids on lsd...

or codeen in syrip
or pills
[or nicoten in gum..
or nicoteen in patches..
or booze merchants or potato chip mob.

.yeah they are
your friends..lol

""The fact is..that cigarettes
are a legal form of highly-addictive
and highly-effective poison.""

yes nicoteen
a POISEN...that now
is put in bubble gum

in concentrated form...
and SUBSIDISED BY GOVT HANDOUT..

clever stuff..!

but here is a good one

""Tobacco-related deaths
account for approximately 15 per cent of all deaths""

""in the financial year 2004-05
was estimated at $31.5 billion."""

SEE SOCIAL COSTS*
comment

""This represents 56 per cent of the total cost of tobacco,..alcohol*
and illicit drug use....!""

""was responsible for 753,618 hospital bed days,
and for $669 million in hospital costs..*.""

LESS THAN ONE BILLION..!

""Tobacco control needs to be exercised without the influence,
or even the perception of influence,}""

..[by special intrest groups]
big tobacco mentioned
but not intended..[added in by edit?]

""Konrad Jamrozik,made the following remarks about big""

multinational's
tobacco mentioned
but lets face it
it is standard opperating procedure
for..*all big business

""in his role as the Professor of Evidence-based Health Care,
University of Queensland:

Its standard tactics are to debate almost endlessly the scientific evidence
on the harm caused by its products, to cultivate (and regularly pay) spokespeople
in other industries and in academia, and to purchase influence by making substantial donations to any political party that will accept them.""

unsaid is thery love govt subsidy
and use any trick in the book

""Tobacco control is not a matter of moral nicety
and nor is it about playing politics.""

no its bipartisen

*pure rancid hate

the FAVOURED lobby
has lobbied its bias well

nyet?

""Tobacco control in this country
must be exercised""

EXCISED!
cast out
decried hated despised
ridiculed silenced and victimised

""without the slightest hint
or perception..of influence""

by any bias lobby or fearmongering hate
not hating smoking or smokers..just looking like

we give a damm

""One wonders not only about the intelligence
of those conference participants ..but also about the guidance*
they had received from their political elders in a political policy machine]..pot kettle].party
which relies so significantly..on money from big..""

[insert big business]

and organised dis-info
special intrests groups
and their lobbyists

seeking govt cash
franchised exclusive licence
and funds ..to sell their spin..[mess-age]

""Debate(on motion by Mr Marles) adjourned""

dare labrats..
to give the libs
give a right of reply?....

or do both serve their
big multinational..business masters
and the spin lobby

who cares

guess who is next?
booze diatetics heretics?

no
know
[the most silent lobby]
will be next...[first silence their voices]

as for exposing peter..[or his facilitraitors]
let his [their] concience judge him[them]

its of little use
to stress out about 300 dollars

im over needing scapegoats/..
or seking others to blame

we are governed by tools
fools and imbisiles

who read prepaRED SPEACHES
little knowing what their own words reveal

may satan have mercy on their souls

they chose
their own version of hell

those who regulate..by the law
shall be ruled ..under the same ..form of law

as ..they thought to rule others by

thus the mad ..make bad law
..built on spin and lie

the deciete and collusion
will remain unconditional..binding upon them

for eternity

enough said
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14151
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