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Tobacco Should we Ban it?

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some interesting developments this week
heard that lymphoma has over come breast cancer as highest cause of death[as they are both included in death by smoking its interesting to note this

its also interesting to note
previous post re only 20 percent of cancers being smoking related
but is this reflected in the death numbers[who knows right

cancer is cancer]
[and it sems 43 types of lymphoma cancer]
for a start

this is a case of why do they
do the things that they do

see on sunday we saw a great piece[story]..of love
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/#fop

its called
'the power of love'
currently its on this page
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/

in two parts
[that both seem to have the same link?]
but it will get lost in the noise
thus i give its name and location

why?
because negus did a hit piece
on the same topic last night

but he didnt mention the new german method[trial]
his is the current 'best practice'..that failed [in the power of love]

the hero of the story found a cure for luekemia
after searching the web thousands of times..
using hundreds of friends

[after going the normal route of radition
and tcell that often fails but negass sold as some miracle-cure]
the very next day

in short the other cure
that worked after negass cure failed
and is in danger of being lost in the chatter yet again

anyhow this other [non negass] cure
also has a failure rate..and wasnt memtioned by name
also involved tcells [but maybe not radiation]
but worked..where 'classic medicine'.. only offerd dying

see this is how big medi-sin works
someone finds a cure that works
but the media goes for the propaganda/spin of the old way
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 10 March 2011 7:06:08 AM
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wow i have been selected to recieve[a chance] to win an eyemac
and all i want is my damm smokes

im trying to keep the love
but feel i should be naming names

getting my vengance
as others got my momey by deciete
assisted by others..especially the anz bank
and the service provider putting up a fraud web site

its nice to be nice
at least the thief could do is
send his victims a smokeless cigarette

or info as to who isnt supplying him

i of course just use my hurt and anger
to make the real evil people[govt] pay
they might get one tax
but no more taxes

and no pensions
they took from me
by lies and deception
i cant forgive them their vile

where is the tax on miners
but no they got protection[lawyers]
will see them all in hell..especially that red franger with a beer bum
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 8:13:47 AM
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why govts give a subsidy for nicoteen gum..[and patches]
becomes more clear when we notice the inspiration[rational] of the big pharma lobby for a crackdown on smokers

to get they new subsidy

why?

they are loosing their old ones
need more money

FDA Suddenly Bans Drugs
That Have Been On The Market For Decades
By: ActivistPost
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/fda-suddenly-bans-drugs-that-have-been.html

As Techdirt recently discussed, the drug pipeline is running dry, as Big Pharma's patents are beginning to expire, and the drug companies are freaking out.

*For years they have been spending more money on research and testing and getting fewer results.

This year alone they are going to have 11 patents expire on drugs that bring in approximately $50 billion in revenue to the big pharma firms.

Of course, the flip side to this is that consumers can start saving about 95% on the price of those drugs, as generics hit the market.

More than 2,000 vaccinated babies died: The cost of doing business
By: kdtroxel
http://www.naturalnews.com/031820_vaccinations_babies.html
(NaturalNews) Earlier this month (March 2011), Japanese authorities ordered doctors to stop using pneumococcal and Hib vaccines because four children died after receiving the shots.

*However, the real news was never reported:
more than 2,000 babies died in the United States after receiving vaccines for these very same diseases, yet authorities refuse to warn parents and halt production.

A safety review is vital to determine whether a recall of the dangerous shots may be necessary to protect additional American babies from disability and death.

According to Shelly Burgess, an FDA spokesperson, the FDA and CDC "have not detected new safety concerns or unusual reporting patterns."

That's odd, because the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), jointly operated by the FDA and CDC, has received more than 59,000 reports of adverse reactions to pneumococcal and Hib vaccines during the past several years.

More than half of these cases - 30,094 - required hospitalization, with 2,169 deaths.

About 95 percent of these deaths were in children under three years of age.

its so easy to change the death numbers
no doudt *all died by smoking
Posted by one under god, Friday, 25 March 2011 8:48:09 AM
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more convoluted thinking
[see previous post re circular reasoning
and cognitive bias[at carbon fraud tax topic]

anyhow

SMOKERS – YOU ARE INHALING
THE SAME RADIOACTIVE POISON
THAT KILLED Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko!

When Did Governments (and tobacco companies)
Know About Polonium 210 and How Long Have They Known?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/smokerspoison.php?q=smokerspoison.php

ok lets keep this in context
at that time in histry[when the study was done]
they werre blowing nukes into the atmosphere
lots of radioactive dust floating everywhere

to wit govt killing smokers
now needing to tax us to death by using lies

[i will get to what you done peter]
but bigger fish to fry for now


more govt silence
Sixth study in recent months
links mercury in flu shots to brain damage, autism
http://www.naturalnews.com/031870_flu_shots_brain_damage.html

The toxic effects of the mercury, also known in vaccines as Thimerosal, have once again been confirmed, this time by researchers from the University of Brazil.

Marking the sixth major study in recent months to condemn the use of mercury in medicine, the new study reveals that mercury causes serious brain damage, and is linked to autism and other developmental diseases in children and Alzheimer's disease in adults.

lets recall we stopped adding lead to petrol
because it was dumbing kids down
clearly mercury has the same affect..!

also please note
when the lead additrive got replaced
it was replaced with benzine[a known carcinogene]
thats why the biggest cause of cancer is petro fumes

smoking at best can be blamed for 25 percent
se previous quote from koombiaya..[the labrat minester for a big new tax.. and rabid anti smoking activist]

dont forget to put up the grenie link
[that the govt holds shares in 'big tobacco'
so they as major shareholders

they can make SURE
govt dont get lobbied for the big new tax

[overnight ,....on smokers]
indexed anually..see previous posts
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 8:25:20 AM
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please note question [d

""Senate debates
on 24 Mar 2011


Rachel Siewert (WA, Australian Greens)
I move:

That the Senate—
(a)
notes that smoking is the largest preventable cause of death and disease in Australia and places our health system under severe financial strain;""

one needs thgink why
[if its a fact]
govt needs to move a motion
[thing is itrs not a fact]
CHALLANGE ME ON THAT
""(b)
recognises that Australia has in the past been a world leader in anti-smoking initiatives;""

the antismoking lobby
has huge power in australia
mainly because govt is a major shareholder
see [d]
""(c)
acknowledges the important ongoing work and recent initiatives of Australian governments to reduce the burden of diseases caused by smoking, including plain packaging, advertising and point of sale bans, mass media campaigns, the Tackling Indigenous Smoking initiative and cessation support;""

its funny how first we get a big new tax
WITHOUT CONSULTATION..virtually overnight

not knowing the real reasons[see abouve]
behind it..[noting this was begun under howard..
first moved by liberals..sealed signed by labrats]
""(d)
expresses concern at the investment of more than $100 million of taxpayers money in shares in international tobacco companies by the Commonwealth Future Fund; and""

why needs govt seervants to hold 100 million in shares
except to get a major shareholder power on the board
that nulifies the lobby

""(e)
calls on the Government to review
and revise investment criteria as a matter of urgency
to ensure that the Future Fund is invested into ethical enterprises that are consistent with the health and wellbeing of the nation and not into tobacco.""

now the knife blade
has done its vile
lobby couldnt change things even if it wanted to

100 million to raise billions
aint the public ser-vice
serving their add-vice empowerments..well

""Question negatived.""

whatever that means
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 31 March 2011 6:29:01 AM
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aint it funny

a pack a day smoker can save 4000 per year[advert]
thing is this extra saving will go on a new tax[carbon]
and increased water and power charges

anyhow recall how an earlier post [quoting a govt member]
attributed only one quater of all cancers to smoking
its worth noting

joel moskelovic has revieuwed all the studies on phone radiation causing brain tumours..[and found it holds up]

trouble being a 20 year lag..
betwen getting exposed and you getting the cancer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42hJR1fX5VU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfNyZ9Kryb8&feature=related
[and then govt adding you to the smoking statistics]

keep in mind the nuke bombs
as you read this latest expose
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/04/radiation-study-estimates-200k-cases-cancer-fukushima-nuclear-fallout-13880/
A disturbing study estimates over 220,000 cases of cancer will result from the Japan nuclear radiation fallout
[ie going to cause many cancers]

http://zippittydodah.blogspot.com/2011/04/gaboon-vipers-and-radioactive-hedge_04.html

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/04/25-years-chernobyl-food-unacceptably-high-levels-radiation-13927/

oh and here
another 'death by smoking'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373240/Wall-Street-executive-Keith-Mastronardi-dies-falling-apartment-smoking.html

how about the media?
dont make me cry
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2011/04/03/foxspiracy/

A disturbing study estimates over 220,000 cases of cancer will result from the Japan nuclear radiation fallout

anyhow it looks like govt is going to get my tax dollars[&^#@#$]
but on the positive side one tobacco company is fighting back

'['Dying to be heard online
NEW SMOKESCREEN

Apr 4, 2011, by News Ltd.

A big tobacco company has hit back at anti-cigarette campaigners by launching its own viral movement. Philip Morris has started circulating messages about its new I Deserve To Be Heard website inside cigarette packages.''

it aint much
but fighting is better
than laying down for a lie

im changing brands

now its just a matter of finding the right web site
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=philip+morris+i+deserve+to+be+heard&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
[the powers that lobby to ban..will lay decoys]
play all their dirty tricks

[as previously revealed]
these people will lie just to get your ta
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 3:24:54 PM
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