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Tobacco Should we Ban it?

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ya gotta love this

NOTE..
[the last one]

quote..""Costs of the Danish population in 1999 were studied
within ...*four disease groups:"""

NOTE 4* DISEASE GROUPS
now read the last '*group'

LOL

""
1..cancer (ICD-10: C00-C99),
2..vascular disease (ICD-10: I00-I99),
3..respiratory disease (ICD-10: J00-J99)
and
4..‘all other diseases’*..."""

lol
your slip is showing
as is their spin

see the joke?
come in spinner

fess up ..ol boy
you do see the joke..right?

it would be funny
if you lot didnt take this scam/link.. seriously

PLEASE..
..learn to think criticlly*..
or the lies will only continue..!

[this is egsactly why bellies
stopped posting links long ago]

knowing where the lies *come from
makes them easier to rebutt

also of intrest ..is the age was truncated*.. at 89 years
[must have skewed ..the numbers ...*they NEEDED to CREATE*]

it still ONLY compares
EX smokers..with smokers..!

so apparently there aint...* no obvious difference
between the un-mentioned*.. never/ever smoking group

wonder which came closer ..to smokers?
ex smokers/..or never smokers?

i suspect ..*never smoking and smoking were much the same
thus never smoking...was deleted*.. from the 'study'..

in other words eliminate the outliner
and thus the never* smoking
..never made it ..into the final edit

talk about selective spin

its just sooo typical...
spin for the gullible

preaching deciete ..to the decieved
..who love being decieved

if it feeds their need ..to hate
or just cheat..

i thought the danes would know better
the great-dane ..would be ashamed..but thats only a dog

this link was more a dogs breakfast
or something some dane cooked up..by cut and paste

looks like the 'danish paste-y'..
is the heights of danish abilities
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 February 2011 8:26:49 AM
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suzie clearly cant read properly..
all cancers..not only the smoking 'related'..
how many ..got adverse reactions ..because suzie is dislectic?

2 our of 3 DONT [cant] get cancer sue..any cancer!

how does this mean ..something else will kill the 2/3..
that is attributable to their smoking...only by docters saying so

yes we all die ...3 out of 3
but what..NOW according to you
ALL DEATHS ..ARE SMOKING RELATED?

im glad your not still pretending to 'care'

re suzies intitial speak diseases
she saw the result*
but not the cause* of

your bias ..presumes they are all smoking related
just like the quacks putting up their..
cause of guess.. death numbers

unsure if ol rusty is serious
so will ignore his encouragment to die
via filter..
recalling they used to be made ..from ASBESTOS..!

if he is sincere ..im not smoking 'good' tobacco
when the price increase was flagged
i bought a kilo of store tobacco

and a kilo of some other stuff..off the web ..called tobacco
[it went mouldy..so i added in a hundred grams of mint
and homegrown tobacco about 200 grams]

mushed the whole lot together
and thats what i now smoke

the mould ..in the tobacco ..has given me lung problems
[black mould is a known killer..but as pericules has said
store bought has got benzine and other mutagenes in it too

see i hate govt ..so much im willing to die early
some might chose to call it suicide
im calling it murder ..by govt taxation

i aim to be the first actual death..'by smoking'..
who actually did die from the act of trying to smoke

but my web dealer is having supply problems...
paid my three hundred a kilo
and havnt recieved my kilo..giving him a few more days..

then may chose to name names

[edited]
4 now

i paid my money

for me its no joke
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 February 2011 9:12:42 AM
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*tax it out of existance my answer*

They are already doing that Belly. Clearly you are out
of touch with the price of tobacco these days. But
its not as black and white as you might like to see it.

Last time I checked, a packet of Winfields was around
the 17$ mark locally. At that kind of money, it would
not surprise me if smuggling boatloads of fags becomes
far more profitable then smuggling boatpeople, so
most likely a smuggling industry will grow and prosper.
So will home grown tobacco.

But personally I think that we are already enough of
a patronising wowser society. There are alot of old
pensioners out there, who have little to live for
and their couple of packets of smokes a week means
a great deal to them. That now costs them 10% of
their pension. I think its unfair to them, to go
robbing them blind. Let them be, for christs sake.
Because you don't agree with their perspective of life,
does not mean that you should not tolerate their
perspective. You, of all people, who claims to care
about the working man.

I just think we are getting things a bit out of whack
here. I know of nurses who gave up nursing
, tiered of being attacked by
patients either drunk or on speed or ice. Yet there
we go hassling a few old pensioners about fags.
Not just discouraging, more like hassling to the
point of persecution!

*Of course it isn't "easy". Nicotine is after all highly addictive, and withdrawal symptoms can be significant.
But in the end, it is very simple.*

Ah Pericles, just like losing weight. Eat less, yes or no.

Sometimes yes or no, just ain't that simple.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 24 February 2011 9:39:33 AM
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Oneundergod, please go and get some help.
I hope life improves for you.
Suze.
Posted by suzeonline, Thursday, 24 February 2011 9:39:56 AM
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I agree with that Suzeonline.
Yabby, then do we stop embargo's on all nonmedical drugs.
Do we stop painting pedestrian crossing on the road.
Is there then any room to protect us from our selves on any issue.
And tell me yabby do you think tobacco tax covers health costs?
I am aware of the costs,my Winny red days saw 4 cartons plus 4 rolly packet and 40 mindget monopoles cigars each fortnight.
Bought on pay day same shop,$208 cost every time, half a weeks pay, I was on fortnightly pay.
30 years ago.
I gave it up in pure hard cold turkey, have seen many suffer trying to and dieing early because they failed.
No high moral ground here I want less to suffer want less to die and want tobacco sellers to find another way to make a living.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:07:51 PM
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...Suzeonline, please remove the "patches" from your own eyes!...

...Three cheers for the AMA! Keeping all tethered to the surgery….One way or another!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:42:25 PM
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