Dear Al,

I did watch more of Beck when he first arrived on the scene, so I have seen a fair bit of him. I was quite interested in his style, and my conclusion was that he was doing nothing more than plugging the neocon agenda on behalf of Murdoch and Fox News - albeit with a brand new act.

Btw, apologies for diverting the thread back there.

Divert ? :) it's ok mate... but seriously.. re Beck and his style.

Do you not actually notice that he used well contextualized quotes/video of key people to demonstrate his assertions?

When he asserts "Under Cap and Trade your electricity bill will SKYrocket" he follows this up with OBAMA saying that very thing...

When he says 'Soros wants a new global world order/government' he shows Soros saying exactly that....

Now..this is not 'Neocon' agenda it's cold hard brutal facts.

(I feel like pinching you to wake you up :) but I'm officially a 'sensitive' person now.. cos a woman (with her partner) came to our Christian stand at the Maroondah Festival and said so...then she reached out to grab and hold my hand for a bit :) what a world eh.

Dear Al,

The technique of inserting random sound and video bites to back up an assertion or an agenda is a well-known device of manipulation. The fact that this is a stock-in-trade tactic regularly employed by maestro Beck in his "down-home truth sessions" is, in my opinion, extremely dodgy.

Funnily enough, I have the same feeling about wanting to pinch you. Strange, isn't it, that people see things so differently.

Dear Poirot...

I'm fully aware *OUCH*...what was that ? (looks around) hmm... of the use of 'sound/vido bites' to 'seemingly' back up an assertion.

But the thing is with Beck/Soros...as Beck says.. it's not a secret..it is OUT THERE in the light of day...in:-

a) Soros OWN books
b) Soros OWN statements which are easily seen in context so as to be absolutely certain of his meaning.

I mean..if the bloke says "I want to build a global government"..... how ambiguous is that ? ? ?

If he says "My foundation network is working towards this goal"..... ummm blind nellie and even blind Poirot can see it...can't she?

The reason this 'god' complex is so easily identifiable is because I think this baboon actually BELIEVES he has some kind of Luciferian god-right to 'be' what he fantasized about.. ie.. in some dark demonic way.."he is sincere"

Beck (aka 'The Force' :) is on his case.. and the (socially) Conservative movement is re-discovering it's roots...and drive and passion.

Nah, Boaz.

>>In Arjay's case his main premise is based on speculation and arguments from silence<<

You're just kidding yourself, that's all.

>>This SOROS thing is not hidden..it's in plain sight. If I were to connect the dots, the following would be very closely connected.(Politically) Group A Gore/Strong/Zoi/Blunt/CCX/Cap & Trade/Democratic party/Socialist-communist elements in the Democratic party/Green movement. Group B Soros/Open society insitutes/various foundations/undermining national sovereignty/destroy the United States/create a Global government. Group C Socialist thinkers, Frankfurt school,==> Political Correctness/MultiCulturalism/Feminism Pulling allll this together, you have the FABIANS or at least their strategy and thinking.<<

That is precisely the logic Arjay uses to pin the blame for 9/11 on the elite bankers/Bush/Cheney/Rice etc. Just string together a whole lot of supposed bogeymen with "links" and voilà!

Conspiracy Proven!

Sadly, you haven't yet worked out that the judicious selection of sound-bites is the stock-in-trade of the irresponsible journalist.

>>...Mr SOROS in press conferences and speeches where he says the things you very irresponsibly describe as 'sound bites'.<<

Of course, you yourself have a history of using carefully selected sound-bites from your chosen religious adversary, against them, do you not? So it shouldn't surprise me that you applaud such behaviour in others.

It certainly explains your continued use of the technique to support your current candidate for fear-and-loathing.

Is it his wealth you despise, by any chance? It certainly seems to be a theme of yours, encapsulated, even, in your presently-chosen nick for this Forum.

You're a worry, that you are.

HI Pericles.

You ask: "Is it his wealth you despise, by any chance?"

Would you envy a man with his face? (looks more like a Lion which has just lined up a limping wilderbeast than a kindly ol grandpa)

I still don't see why you lump me in with Arjay?

Soros has said "Just call the former soviet empire the Soros Empire"

He's openly stated (himself you duffer) that he is aiming for and working towards Global Government (Governance). As I said.. you don't have to paw over the intestines to see this. Perhaps this is why you just don't get it.

9/11 is debunkable because you can take their claims one by one and subject them to scientific analysis...and *poof* they evaporate.

SOROS ? mate..he has outlined it all himself. You don't need to speculate.

I'ts you who is a worry when you look but don't 'see'.

Soros was confiscating Jewish property 'to survive'....BECK points this out and says:
QUOTE:
I am certainly not saying that George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice.
UNQUOTE

But wait...what does SOROS say himself ? :)

"It was the best year of my life...I enjoyed it" (quote)

What does the ADL say about Beck?

"He is an anti semite"....Beck writes to them and asks "Which things did I say which were anti semitic"?

They reply (letter)

//Dear Glenn, a direct mail piece recently sent to some ADL supporters around the country inadvertently misidentified you on the list of celebrities that had made anti Semitic statements over the past year. This was clearly a mistake and we deeply regret that your name was included in the mailing which was produced by an independent third party contractor.//

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-puppet-master-read-the-beck-tv-background-guide-to-george-soros/

You might find that link helpful, but the video matarial is the best in my opinion. He says things in clear context which are difficult to misinterpret.

Beck is asserting that Soros is seeking to influence the world and create Global Governance through a vast network of foundations. I don't find any evidence to the contrary, but volumes of evidence in the affirmative.