I can see desperation creeping in, Boaz.

>>One important point too..Soros was educated....guess where ? :) The Fabian London School of Economics. Hmmmm<<

So was Mick Jagger. Let's have a look to see whether he also was intent on world domination.

Ah yes, here we go.

"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste. I've been around for a long, long year, stole many a man's soul and fate.
I stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change, killed the Czar and his ministers.
I rode a tank, held a General's rank when the Blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank.
I watched with glee while your kings and queens fought for ten decades, for the Gods they made.
So if you meet me, have some courtesy, have some sympathy and some taste. Use all your well learned politics, or I'll lay your soul to waste" (Jagger/Richards)

Sounds like a perfectly straightforward confession to me.

And after all, he did attend the Fabian London School of Economics.

You and I can agree on this, though:

>>Please don't ask me to 'prove' this stuff<<

Even though it is "from his own mouth"...

Are you beginning to get the picture here, Boaz?

You are being led by the nose.

And as you know, when you are being led by the nose, you can't actually see where you are going.

Or even who is leading you, in fact.

Mind you, on the "LSE/World Domination" thing, you may have a point with Cherie Blair...

Dear Al I loved my father and he loved me. 10 days before he died the Lord told me he was going to die so I went to share Gods love with him. He told me never to use the name of Jesus in his presence again as he had made his choice and he was going to hell, and for me not to be concerned for his choice for it was his to make not mine. I asked " Don't you believe in God Dad", His reply was "of cause I do but I have made my choice". His beloved labor party destroyed his life work with inflation but his commitment to socialism held his heart true to that cause to the end. As he wasn't sick his death came as a shock to the rest of the family. We waste our precious seed feeding chooks that aren't hungry. The spiritually blind can not see. He who has an ear to hear let him hear. So then faith comes by hearing and my dad chose to receive Karl Marx words not Gods and his faith was in socialism.

Interesting Richie... the night my mum died I also had a "word" to that effect, so I know where you are coming from. Hope you are healing from the impact of Dad's decision. All is in God's hands mate.

Pericles, me led by the nose ? :) hardly. As a sidelight.. I notice my mate Beck is only now just catching up with me (and most informed Christians) *smile* on one important issue. ('Reversing Babel' in the EU H/Q Brussels....the Architecture says it all)

You might find this enlightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxLoQUnSTMQ "Global Financial Order"

OH... fyi..it's not Arjay speaking there..it's people with a bit more clout.

You might find this informative, but I don't have the time to sort out for you the specific bits which are 'over' speculative, you'll have to just read your Bible from cover to cover a few times to pick that up :)
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/european_union.html#Babel

I gave you 'proof' of my primary assertion "The man who would be god" by showing his own documented delusion. What more do you need?

Now the rest is just "interesting" stuff. How much weight one places on it all.. well.. individual choice. I will agree with one of your earlier points though, that Soros (this is in thinking like Arjay mode) is probably the recipient of some string pulling himself.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2&version=NIV ....see verse 9

That's the joy of keeping tabs on your fevered imagination, Boaz. Every so often you come up with an absolute gem.

The "In Plain Sight" link is one of the funniest yet. (If this is what you consider "evidence", by the way, then you have in one bound, rocketed way past Arjay in the sheer-fantasy stakes.)

Here are my favourite bits:

"Another demonic biblical symbol that is being used in conjunction with the European Union is the one from Revelation 17 where a “great harlot” is depicted riding a beast."

And the sin? An updated depiction of "Europa and the Bull".

If you care to check, far from being a "great harlot", Europa was abducted by Zeus, pretty much against her will - at least, she had no idea that the friendly bull was Zeus in disguise until it was far too late.

Incidentally, Gustave Moreau's watercolour of the myth (you did know it is a myth, don't you?) is far raunchier than the cover of Der Spiegel...

What else do we have. Ah yes...

"Above the Tower of Babel were shown the eurostars, but inverted, as in witchcraft, with the central points downwards"

Since when, and on whose authority, are "inverted eurostars" a sign of witchcraft? And who, in the twentyfirst century, believes in witches anyway?

And I love the verdict on Schiller:

"The lyrics, by a man named Friedrich von Schiller, concern the entering of the shrine of a pagan goddess and the uniting of all men in brotherhood, by the power of magic"

Garbage. How can you reach that conclusion when the poet states, categorically...

"Brüder, über'm Sternenzelt muss ein lieber Vater wohnen"

"Brothers, above the canopy of stars a loving father must live"

and

"Und der Cherub steht vor Gott. Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen? Ahndest du den Schoepfer, Welt?"

"And the Cherub stands before God. Do you bow down, you millions? Can you sense the Creator, you world?"

Pagan? Magic?

All sounds pretty religious to me.

Thanks for pointing it out, Boaz, it's made for a fun start to the day.

Dear Al,
Jesus dealt the sting from the scorpions tale the following sunday and I have never carried it.
regards Richie

Dear Pericles... you have commented on a lot of stuff in the links which I quite agree is colorful speculation. My providing of that info was not a 100% endorsement of it.

In fact you pointed out the very reason WHY I don't jump into that stuff like Arjay does to his 9/11 thing.

The speculation level is extremely high.

But you did make one important point..which I think escaped you.

//Europa was abducted by Zeus, pretty much against her will - at least, she had no idea that the friendly bull was Zeus in disguise until it was far too late.//

That my dear Perilous is EXACTLY how it is. "The rape of Europa"
Read what you like into that woman on a bull...but the myth is very interesting because in our view Europe is being raped from every direction possible and then some.

You need to distinguish between 'my views' and 'views I report for discussion'.

But.. glad I helped start your day with a laugh :)

RITCHIE.. God bless, -pray for me today, I'm at the Mind Body Spirit festival here.. surrounded by UNOWHO's minions and some of them can be a bit aggressive. We present the Gospel to anyone interested.
There is a lot of darkness out there, tragic adults who have never known even sunday school and are 'knowledge vacuums' when it comes to things of Christ.