i dont feel austr-ALIAN...if anything im a queenslander...

im reminded that we are in the commonwealth of australia..[a british colony]...noting our constitution is an act of british parlement...noting the qld and aussie/constitution's...were/ was signed by the queen of briton..[who reportedly..has to sign all law..into l.a.w]..furyher we have as supreem head of state various govener generals...sworn to loyalty of some foreign crown

seems im not into being an aussie...[whatever that is]...im informed that these lands [unnamed by its natives]...but vairiously known as gondwana/great south lands/new holland/and van die-mens land..[of the peoples land]...is a commonwealth juristiction..to wit a brit colony...

teqniclly not even allowed to be called legally any country..[because we didnt have a referen-dumb,..despite the farce of the australia act..[another brithish act?]..

.anyhow call yourselves what you wish...its all pretty much delusional[because your all children of god..live with it...its not worth arguing over]...

ps re chapple corby[i think some idiot advised her to convert to muslim...possably..so it wouldnt contaminate her farcicle trial...recalling the treasons that put her there...its pretty much clear now why..[thanks ptb]

We have among us about 1500 evil little mongrels, both men and women who are not Australians in the true sense, because they have failed to accept that to be an Australian you have to accept the Constitution. Kevin Rudd is a true blue Aussie because he accepts that the Constitution is paramount as far as law is concerned and Almighty God is paramount over that.

I am amused that UOG calls herself a Queenslander. Been watching too much State of Origin and the fever has been passed on. I was in a bar at Townsville when the Broncos were playing the Cowboys, and the bar split right down the middle. Half were for the Cowboys and the other half for the Bronco’s and only one point decided the game. We were all Aussies, and UOG should realize that the Constitution is an Act of Union, uniting Australia as One Nation. Why do you think that red haired woman struck such a cord.

The Liberal Party are not true blue Aussies, because most of them are lawyers, and lawyers have been dumbed down by their university education, to believe in the Law not Almighty God, and that the Constitution is made of rubber, not set in stone. The one uniting force in Australia above all others should be our Constitution, and it should be treated with due respect.

It is a Christian document and was forged out of a consensus between al denominations, who still exist in about the same proportions as they did in 1899. For the story of how we became One Nation, you can read the record of the passage of the Constitution through the English Parliament. Its amazing what there is on the Net. Put Community Law Resource Group into Google, and see what comes up.

In the second and last referendum Queensland took part for the first time, and the results were 377,600 for and 141,500 against. This is roughly the same proportions of Australians who claim Christianity now as did in 1900. One thing we all have in common is the Constitution. Read it

As AnSymeonakis said "Most Australians have two citizenships"

I am one of them but

I am British by accident of birth and Australian because of a conscious choice and decision.

I live in Australia and vote in Australian elections. I travel on an Australian passport and pay Asutralian taxes. Conversely, my British Passport lapsed around 15 years ago, I have not visited UK since 1989, do not pay UK Taxes and I have not voted in an election since dearest Margaret was PM.

In the unlikely event of a war between Ausrtalia and UK, my alliegence and fealty would be to Australia and not to Britain.

Regarding people who claim to be of foreign nationality, let them leave and live where their alliegence and presumably, their heart is focused and leave Australia to those of us who are actually proud to be called "Australian", we will make a better place without the fence-sitters and wannabes.

As to her minority religious affects, she should consider herself lucky to be able to make that choice. In many Muslim majority countries, to adopt a religion against the Muslim majority is justification for persecution and even death.

So it seems to me, she needs to readically reconsider the choices she is actually making in light of the source of the rights she claims.

Which brings me back to dearest Margaret and the famous "no such thing as society" speech, which some enjoy corrupting, wherein Margaret actually said

"....People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

This woman seems to be pronouncing her "Entitlements" without considering her "Obligations" and those "Obligations" are to the wider Australian community and not just to the Maltese or Muslim sub-sets.

Well, that didn't get us anywhere did it?

A few people agree with my concern that a person born in Australia sees herself as something else. Foxy thinks that the woman might have been confused – how does that matter, Foxy, when you know that this sort of denial of being Australian goes on all the time – this is just one instance. Some people merely went all political and disagreed with me just on principle. AS brought up dual citizenship and told us how his nephew uses that ridiculous advantage to dodge military service in Greece.

Col Rouge dropped in and once again proved that if all Australians of choice were like him we would have no problems at all.

But for all of you apologists and anti-Leigh characters, just what do you think this tribal attitude and wanting to live in Australia but thinking of yourself as something else is doing to the country? Like it or not, and it might even be necessary if we can believe some of the economic pundits, we are going to have a lot more immigration in the future. I probably won’t be around to see the worst of it, but many of you will.

Dual citizenship and multiculturalism is gradually creating a land of disparate tribes, where tribes or groups will have nothing in common and nothing to do with each other. A country simply cannot hold together like that.

Finally, tell me where I stand. I am a third generation Australian, deriving from Scottish, English and German immigrants somewhere in the early 1800’s. I have no dual citizenship. Can I call myself a Scot, an Englishman or a German, depending what mood I’m in; even though I have never been to any of those countries and have no particular interest in them. If I want to holiday in any of those countries, including the UK, I have to line up with the other aliens.

Why should it be different for recently arrived immigrants

“I live in Australia and vote in Australian elections. I travel on an Australian passport and pay Asutralian taxes. Conversely, my British Passport lapsed around 15 years ago, I have not visited UK since 1989, do not pay UK Taxes and I have not voted in an election since dearest Margaret was PM.”

Is it how you feel or how the people around you feel? One may feel they are Australian in every sense of the word but if the other Australians do not view you the same does how you feel matter in the end?

Do the Muslims here not feel Australian no matter what generation they are? Or do they reject aspects of Australia that clash with their own belief systems and will do forever?

Leigh you sound like the “do not ask what your country can do for you…” But we all do aye, we all want to know what the balance is.

If I am a good citizen, do all the stuff like Col (pay taxes etc) then what is the advantage if forever, because of accent alone, I am called “Kiwi” here?

G'Day All,
An Australian is not an Australian when you are born in Australia of Irish mixed Aboriginal blood, Birthdate 26-01-1954 & 47 years of age before you are allowed to vote. That is when an Australian is not an Australian. Thanks for your time. Dave