We will not progress this subject until we understand the NRL, sportsmen in general, did not invent sex.
Group sex toilet sex groupie sex no it existed before sport, or we would not be here.
It stuns me,the thought some think it was imposable for this woman to have invited this action, all of it, then took 5 days to change her mind.
Yes women do hunt stars, for sex, the sex drive is the biggest drive in our lives head shrinks have told of that drive behind almost every problem in our lives.
I think some interesting cases could be found by one looking in to this threads posts.
Right now, some place near you, a group sex act is taking place trust me.
The view it is dirty is based on religion, not fact, and as for comparing this act with animals, has any one seen monkey groups having sex?

"Seriously man that's just sad and sickening. I'll bet they'll lap it up too." (Hollowbeak)

He responds to Examinators thanks to females on another thread.

"I'd just like to end this topic by thanking Antiseptic and Robert for your interesting points, and for entering into the spirit of the discussion." (Hollowbeak)

THAT; of course, is different...
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Thank-you for using my terminology Yabbs and Hollowbeak. When one is bereft of anything original to say..? Happy to share.
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'Johns is a victim....victim...VICTIM'....er,

Nope! I've repeated it enough and he didn't become one!!
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We will NOT progress on this subject, until we stop spinning around attempting (not succeeding) in intense analysis of sex/group sex/animals and sex/masturbation/boasting in bars/delays/etbloodycetera!

11 so-called adults. 1 young woman.

10 of those men gutless damn cowards. The other one frightened for seven years that this would come out.

Tell him boys;-why worry about it? You did nothing wrong,-it was HER fault.

Cowards.

Ginx still not grasping that there is no 'fault' in consential sex....

'THAT; of course, is different..'
Of course it is as I was taking off Foxy/Fractelle. If you cant grasp that I can see why the topic is such a struggle for you.

Some weeks before I wrote that some lefts from this forum are champions in hypocricy about migrants rights, one said that I am a tired old trojan horse, yesterday I wrote that "some progresive people are more conservative about the sex and privacy, than the real conservatives."
Today I want to inform them that in Canada the " age of sexual consent is 14" and according to Supreme Court of Canada "partner exchanging or "swinging" and group participation in sexual acts is not considered illegal"
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/dec/05122104.html
Some times while we think we are opening highways to the future in real we drive direct to Victoria era.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid

According to an Editorial in the Courier mail,
May 17 2009,

"All we need to know is that it is wrong.
All the football clubs need to know is that
the public is running out of patience with
immoral, immature, and unmanly behaviour
from those who wear their colours..."

"It is time that some young men - so
athletically gifted but so morally shortchanged
realised they are killing off the game that gives
them the fame and the fortune that some women
find fatally attractive..."

As I said in my previous posts let's hope
that this incident sends a stern warning to both
the players and young women to re-think their
behaviour. That this latest scandal leads to lasting
change. That the shock of the after-effects of this
incident will be a wake-up call that no one walks
away from. That it sends a message to all concerned.

Ginxy, you still don't get it, but then perhaps you are just so busy
defending the sisterhood with your wagons, that you are not thinking
straight.

Of course MJ is a victim. He seemingly did not lie to this Clare.
She was still bragging about her exploits with him the following
day. Now perhaps you or one of the other OLO females have had a
little sexual adventure in life that you are not that proud of.

If some bloke was to go on national TV and tell the world about
it, I bet you would be mightely pissed off. Next if that
person was making money by claiming victimhood, you would be
screaming from the rooftops.

Foxy, I think that your real problem is that you think others
should live the straightlaced lifestyle that you have and do.

Believe me its not going to happen. Put the plug in the football
genie and it will pop out elsewhere, as we saw last night on
Four Corners, with the son of god guru, knocking off all those
women.

There is alot more going on out there in suburbia, then straighlaced
people like you are aware of. So you only know about it, when
it is broadcast on tv.

Perhaps we'll need to introduce some school lessons like
"Critical thinking for gullible young women" or similar.

But continue to see the world through your rosey coloured glasses,
I assure you, the real world is quite different.

The rule of the jungle prevails, at every opportunity,
despite all that so called social conditioning.