Well we, yes me too, have done it again, the thread wanders from subject to subject.
Not surprising it gets to be an animal welfare thread.
If it did not however, judging on the posts in such threads we may never get to talk about that subject.
While we paddle in threads such as Sea Kittens, talking unions politics and just about anything, others are left to talk in other threads, so it serves a purpose.
At a time federal politics is so very interesting we ask have the Liberals lost the plot, well my view is yes on so many fronts.
But they are not alone, just read the thread, an interesting worth while thing to do.
In my youth we trucked lawn clippings and hay from inner Sydney to the bush during the 60,s drought.
A leader in my union took Christmas gifts to the bush just a few years ago,
Right now the good will is there but frankly confusion exists, some publicity makes me[ with some understanding] question who is best to help out?
My donation will not go to any existing animal welfare group.

Belly
If you want to make sure your doing something for the Animals, it’s really important, not to just send a donation, to the next Animal Welfare Organisation. Most of them don’t do any hands of work and just leave it to RSPCA

If you wish to help horses, cattle, in the fire you could send your donation to project hope-
http://www.phhwv.org.au/
Every Cent will go into feed and straight out to the animals.

If you wish to assist animals in QLD floods send it direct to a drop off points which will be produce stores in Cairns until the SES or Government nominate another area.
I will post some contacts or drop offs on Monday after speaking with Government.
We need offers of Transport, if you know any Tuck companies. Most of all someone to Co ordinate. SES will probably be best but people are required to volunteer.
In the future, it would be good to see, all Animal Groups, get themselves organised and partipate in times like this when animals most need their help.

Project hope has been around 35 years and it’s their experience together with utter dedication that makes the difference.

Why can’t animal Welfare Groups participate in each state. Working with ALP State Governments. We need to lobby for that. Now that would be a very worth while hobby horse for you. You said in the past you wanted to do something to help animals.

Full credit this time to the Red Cross working with RSPCA btw who have been also giving out Hay and Dog food!-
Belly you need not fear pale wants to turn this into a animal thread. I just followed in line to responding to my attackers.

What I would like you to consider speaking of the "budget" is why Animal Welfare should group Receive Tax Relief if they are not prepared to actually do some emergency relief.

TO BE CONTIUNED

*Yabby We have an office to run for starters and I personally have hosres that must be cared for*

Fair enough Gertrude, just so that we understand your priorities.

You are clearly busy, your group seemingly has no money
or human resources to help the starving and dying cattle.

So its office chores, feeding horses and mudslinging
at the Govt on OLO, that are your priorities it seems.

Personally I am just kind of blown away by all this.

Here we have Australian cattle dying by their tens of
thousands in our backyard and people shrug their shoulders
and say they are busy with other things.

Next thing we are all high and pompous, trying to tell
the ME how they should handle their livestock. Others
might not see the hypocracy, but I certainly do.

Next time somebody goes on about the live trade, I will
remind you of what is happening in your own backyards.

Yabby
We have given praise to the office who has ‘finally agreed to help the Animals. You cant blame us for being some what annoyed by being put in contact with the "Brisbane City council" to organise Cairns 'come on.!

After saying that the Lady in ‘that particular office’ once we finally got through and their Minister has acted. They have been very responsible by admitting they would welcome some help and we intend to give it to them.
I gave you a ‘very ‘honest appraisal of my person commitments and we are required anyway to respond to calls and arrange drop off points.
You demanded to know why I* could not personally attend QLD floods. I thought you would understand as our office was organising it that being here was more important than one person going.
We are doing apart from RSPCA and a few other private organisations far more than our friend Nicky for example. The same applies for live exports Yabby. We at least try to work to reopen abattoirs. Tell me honestly what you have ever seen on this forum in regard to that- Just abuse and calling us Animal killers!

• Personally I am just kind of blown away by all this*
• So am I Yabby and that’s a very good question where are they
•
• Where is AA AL AAQ?
• Tell you what blows me away that you stick it into me when we are as far as I can see the only ones apart from RSPCA helping as much as we can.

• So why don’t you ask Nicky what she’s doing and her friends to assist instead of just picking on Me.! At least we are doing something- A lot actually and I’m Tired and upset you would be so very unkind to especially Rhonda and Antje who have worked tirelessly even if you dislike me!
• To the point once this is over I`m out of it. Never met people like this in my life.
They say they care about Animals Huh!

Yabby, your question was about starving cattle, so I am mystified about why PALE would provide a horse protection organisation's link. But who knows what's in the water or whatever they drink up there? And add to the listed activities threatening half the country with baseless legal action (when in fact the reverse is a bit more like it) and you've just about got the priorities right.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2479&page=41

PALE, I have absolutely no idea what other orgabnisations are doing. How often do I have to tell you that I do not belong to any?

Nicky

Somehow, I think it is not the liberals who have "lost the plot" but this thread certainly has