Sorry I accidentally cut off the last number of the link I gave, here's the correct one- I hope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRtQ0bZ5Ko8

Hi all, and welcome, Celivia.

There was a petition which I signed, I'll try and find it again and post it here. EVO, the word "balance" is not in Yabby's (rather limited) vocabulary, as you may have noticed. If anyone expresses a view about animal welfare, he goes into auto-pilot and expresses the opposite view as a matter of course.

Cheers
Nicky

* he goes into auto-pilot and expresses the opposite view as a matter of course.*

Nicky dear, with you that is probably the case, for I bring a balance
to your "unbalanced" views. So what do you have against ugg boots?

Yabby, nothing at all as long as they are made of polar fleece (i.e. "fake" and not sheepskin), although I tend to feel that encouraging a culture of even "faux" fur tends to encourage this atrocious and completely unnecessary industry.

As for your "balance"; perhaps you should look up the term in this context in a dictionary.

I take it that you think that the Chinese treatment of animals is perfectly acceptable?

Nicky

*i.e. "fake" and not sheepskin*

Err, Ugg boots are made of sheep skin. Fake ones perhaps of fake
sheep skin. What is wrong with sheep skin Ugg boots?

Where did I say that I think that I agree with the Chinese
treatment that you mention? Don't put words in my mouth dear.

Nope, your views are not balanced, but extremist. Even your family
eat meat. Admit it, you are obsessed.

I don’t have more problems with sheepskin than with meat. Isn’t sheepskin just a byproduct of the meat industry? If these by products are not used they have to be disposed of, so why not use them?

However, even as a moderate meat consumer, I do have a big problem with factory-farmed meat and hide/fur that comes from abused animals- animals kept in tiny cages and then cruelly killed for no other reason than people’s nauseating cruelty and horrendous greed.
Bashing seals to death still goes on in Canada, it’s so horrible that I try not to think about it.