Err of course the lack of jobs has nothing to do with the fact that
the Australian sheep population has gone from 180 million to 80
million, due to lack of profitablity.

Why arn't all these people who claim to have lost jobs, applying for
the jobs being offered by meatworks?

Crapola indeed, being published by our OLO liberation fanatics.

Dickey is right Yabby- and next post I will tell "you why"!.
Well done Dickey!


May I say what a good post that was made by Nicky
Beautifully explained to Belly-
btw I wasn’t referring to the AACT site. Bozzie started a thread to inform us all he kicked a dog- Or a mutt he terms it.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2131

It might be good if we talked about the AACT site.I have no information.

Nicky said
*Having said that, I can't really figure out the US involvement and my understanding was that the AWB involvement was fairly minimal. There was also a timing issue about those claims.*

*Having said that, I can't really figure out the US involvement,*

Nicky not tonight I am too tired. I was referring to the history of the meat industry and the monopoly by US and their involvement of live exports through trade.
I will get back to it later.- promise .

Perhaps Yabby might explain it Please Yabby?( It will be interesting for me to see if your willing to do that.

Nicky said
*my understanding was that the AWB involvement was fairly minimal.

pale asks>
May I enquire please as to who gave you that information please?

*There was also a timing issue about those claims.*

Pale asks>
Oh, I see- How is that? This is very interesting.

Just before I go a few words to belly. Belly you never let me down
You can always put a smile on my face- 'thank you.'
I note your comment regarding unions-

Belly said
(Oh plenty want to hide that fact, some from within the movement.
*But every thing from thugs and mugs to very left vs right unions exist.*
*The union against live exports is acting in self interest.*
*every thing from thugs and mugs to very left vs right unions exist*
pale replies
Belly I am not sure Kevin would thank you for that but I will.
" Perfect"

Your a funny man belly pls dont leave us

Perhaps you ought to consider a job for Bredan:)

We export animals to these people. campaigners "on the ground" recognize the hopelessness, and kill themselves...

Chinese Representative of CIWF dead after International Conference in Beijing (2006)

Pei Wang (Betty), 33, Chinese representative of the organisation "Compassion In World Farming" (CIWF) took her own life in Beijing China on 8 November just days after the closing of the "International Forum on Animal Welfare and Meat Safety" conference. This conference was organized by Pei and was solely devoted to the welfare of pigs in China. Following Pei’s death, popular local newspaper, "Xin Jing Bao", reported that her husband had told friends that she was overwhelmed by people’s cruelty towards animals and felt desperate that she could not make much of a difference [to the welfare of the animals]. Pei Wang was a well respected animal welfare advocate who spent a large part of her career working to improve Animal Welfare within China and was involved in, amongst other activities, investigating dog slaughter in CiXi City and fur farming in Hiibei.

At the present time China has no laws regulating either the conditions in which animals live, or the procedures to which they are subjected. Consequently, animal welfare, particularly in the farming industries, is often less than optimal. Promotion of an increased awareness of the problems relating to Animal Welfare in production animals in China should be encouraged with the aim of making steps to improve conditions for animals in this country

http://www.uq.edu.au/vetschool/cawe/docs/CAWE_Newsletter.Feb06.pdf

Nicky

Nicky said
*my understanding was that the AWB involvement was fairly minimal.*

Nicky
When you direct comments to me as you have below and I respond out of common manners I do not expect you to then ignore me.

Please dont go on either about me changing the subject because remember these below are YOUR comments.


Now you own these comments below and I want to know what made you print this totally WRONG information.

I think I already know where you got that from but I will give you a chance to respond before I correct you.

Do you really think the Bulletin would have ran the story on AWBs connection to Live Exports and Rudds failer to disclose it to the public if it were not spot on.

No, because they would have got their arses sued.

pales response
May I enquire as to who gave you that incorrect information?

Nicky-
*There was also a timing issue about those claims.*

Pales reply
Oh, I see- How is that? This is very interesting.

So Nicky we are waiting for you to explain why you said
*my understanding was that the AWB involvement was fairly minimal.*

*my understanding was that the AWB involvement was fairly minimal.*


?

Also sad the lady in china took her life. It would probably be much better for the animals to let her rest in peace because the opposition will simply say= she was mentally unstable and use it against the argument.

Hi all

A petition about truth in labelling of fur products ...

http://www.pelzfrei.info/petition.php

There doesn't seem to be a translation facility, but the pictures say it all.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky

Not game to answer I see.
Your totally rude and most of all irresponsible.
You make statements that are not only 'wrong' but 'unhelpful' to animals.

Then when you are challenged to produce something to support it you run a mile.