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What really is PETA?

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Obviously Nick-n-Dick have never stepped foot on a real Aussie sheep station. The size of the places makes it impossible to regularly check on the sheep.

It is common knowledge that all domestic animals become feral after a period of time. Cattle, cats, dogs, goats, pigs and even sheep become wild and unpredictable when left to survive on their own.

What special diets do sheep have? Well they eat grass and more grass. The only possible incorrect diet that would be fed sheep would be when there is a severe drought and there is no grass to eat.

I was once told by one of the most Australia's senior veterinarians that the inventor of mulesing was honoured with an award for animal welfare. Due to the fact that mulesing enormously improved the welfare of sheep.

PETA is not interested in the welfare of sheep only the destruction of farming. The destruction of farm families. The destruction of farm children. The destruction of farm communities. The destruction of farm suppliers.

Nick-n-Dick please explain why PETA doesn't start a trial / demonstration farm. They certainly have the money. They could sell DVDs of the initiative and educate the world.

Still waiting for a detailed elaboration of cruelty and the clubbing of seals.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:58:33 PM
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Hi all

I've already said that I'm over engaging in repetitive debate with the cruelty fraternity any more, so I'm not even going to bother to go there with this latest round of SUPER repetitive claptrap.

The link is referenced perfectly properly, in accordance with academic principles. All you have to do is find the documents. Hardly rocket science.

Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:39:56 PM
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"Still waiting for a detailed elaboration of cruelty and the clubbing of seals."

Don't need to elaborate Mouth Almighty. Cruelty is already officially documented in this country, in Canada and throughout the world.

2000 to 2007 Australia (DAFF): Four hundred and fourteen thousand (414,000) animals succumbing to the inhumane incarceration on the ships of death and dumped overboard whilst small children die from starvation, reduced to skin and bone and slipping into comas from malnutrition whilst their parents kill and are killed for a morsel of sustenance.

Despite this abomination and the urgent global requirement to grow more crops to sustain the poor, the environmentally destructive, foul mouthed, sadistic scumbags would have you believe that one's lamb chop was never a sentient being that wanted to frolick and feel the sun on its back.

Rather, the mouths insist that the lambs and their brothers enjoy a miserable life containing torture and pain ending with muffled screams induced by the gluttonous, profit-driven barbaric executioner.

And what rights have the compassionate in this "fair" land to spoil Sunday's lunch with stories of animals being mutilated and beaten, suspended live on hooks, dumped overboard or drowning in their own faeces?
Posted by dickie, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:46:00 PM
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“Jim Watts, who runs the breeding consultancy SRS Company, said that merino sheep genetically bred to be wrinkle-free were naturally immune to fly-strike, a disease in which the insects eat the animal's flesh.”

Rubbish! Wrinkle free sheep will still get fly blown. They won’t get flyblown as much as sheep with wrinkles but they will still get flyblown. Poll Dorsets and Border Leisters are two examples. Merino’s getting flyblown is also relevant to the amount of oil in the wool.

“Watts, who was nominated by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals to be part of an Australian Wool Innovation panel on alternatives, said wrinkle-free sheep were first bred in the 1930s but lost out to mulesing, which was invented at about the same time.”

Well, well. Isn’t this a conflicting interest? Nominated by Peta to be part of the Australian Wool Innovation panel on alternatives.

Nicky – are you suffering from some form of dementia? I asked for unbiased information, in other words FACTS! Due to you vast lack of experience and knowledge of the sheep farming industry you continually show immaturity and gullibility. You post all this stuff with a lot of fanfare and self adulation and then when you get ‘hammered’ with the facts by people like us that know what we are talking about, it makes you look even more stupid than you make yourself!

You and your in-bred mate, dickie, like Peta, Animals Australia and other animal liberation groups have approached a complex problem with your simplistic arguments. It doesn’t work, you will only ever con a very small amount of people, and you won’t get your way with the government. Cults like Peta will always be ostracized by the majority, because they are divisive, push their agenda of total veganism, and spin propaganda and lies. If you had any say or were worthwhile listening to, you wouldn’t be wasting your time here feebly trying to convince and recruit people.
Posted by myopinion, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:57:00 PM
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*The link is referenced perfectly properly, in accordance with academic principles. All you have to do is find the documents. Hardly rocket science.*

Err Nicky,thats not going to help those sheep one little bit, as
they die from blowfly strike, due to Peta's actions. All very sad
really, vegan stupidity.

*with stories of animals being mutilated and beaten, suspended live on hooks, dumped overboard or drowning in their own faeces?*

Meantime the lambs are happily frolicking in the paddocks, chewing
pasture, playing games with one another, sucking on mom's teat,
enjoying life
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:02:22 AM
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Thanks for the rational response Dick.

Please focus - I would like your opinion about the exact nature of cruelty and sealing. I think there must be a reason they club the seals as there are other ways of killing them. I genuinely want to know.

Is there any video of seals being skinned alive?
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:08:20 AM
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