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What really is PETA?

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Well, look who’s suddenly attacked me. Unlike you dickie, when asked questions and don’t answer, I will answer your questions.

Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008

“That this hypocrite (myopinion) can attack anyone is astonishing. He advised on the cull thread that he is a former sheep farmer and that he rode bulls here and in the US.”

Now I am accused of being a hypocrite, well dickie, prove it. So by your reckoning, as a former sheep farmer and professional rodeo rider I have no credibility. Look at it from my point of view, as a former sheep farmer I would think that I had more credibility than you to talk about sheep husbandry as I was actually involved in it, unlike you. As a former rodeo rider I would think I would have more credibility to discuss that than you do, as again I was actually involved, unlike you. You just can’t get credibility by reading about these things on the internet, by reading the prolific propaganda that PETA et al send you or by hearing second hand information.

“No doubt he endorses the removal of ovaries, testicles, horns and branding of cattle, without pain relief whilst they are incarcerated in a steel crush, bellowing in pain.”

For the people that are uninitiated in cattle husbandry, the removal of the testicles from a male calf produces a steer, otherwise it would stay a bull. The vast majority of beef sold on the market is from steers. The same with sheep, after the testicles are removed they become wethers instead of staying as rams. As I was in the sheep husbandry industry and worked on cattle ranches in the U.S. many years ago I have obviously been involved in the castrating of sheep and cattle and the branding of cattle. None of which I apologise for and I am very proud of my farming background.

Yes I did ride professional rodeo both here and in the U.S. and I will tackle this issue later in this thread. By the way I am also not ashamed of that either.
Posted by myopinion, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 8:33:48 PM
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"You just can’t get credibility by reading about these things on the internet, by reading the prolific propaganda that PETA et al send you or by hearing second hand information."

Touche myopinion - learn from that and cease peddling "prolific propaganda and second hand information" you have grabbed off the internet and manipulated to suit your agenda.

The footage I provided doesn't lie - these are the facts.

I can provide more if you wish.

Clearly you have a cruel indifference to and a relish for the atrocious practices of the industries you have participated in.

"I have obviously been involved in the castrating of sheep and cattle and the branding of cattle. None of which I apologise for and I am very proud of my farming background."

Any anaesthesia, myopinion - or a mere painkiller? No, I thought not.

You have shamed yourself but obviously you are very disturbed human being, cowboy. You need help - pronto!
Posted by dickie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:02:59 PM
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runner>"Hopefully one day you will get to know the God personally of whom you so frequently mis represent."

Perhaps you religious people should consider minding your own business and keeping your beliefs private? How about you start teaching each other to live as morally as you want others to. If you can't even convince christians of your own rules and practices then you should not dare to point your finger or decry others. This is after all, why your own priests raped children for decades: Because you cared more about other people than the rapist priests in your own churches.

Most christians do not attend church or care for it, all they want is the pleasant symbol of the afterlife, without the commitment to bible teachings or requirements. Catholics don't even follow catholic teachings, except the most mainstream of them. The Catholic church has been reduced to taking their money and talking about the evils of not themselves or their lazy, unworthy followers who will most of them go straight to hell, but criticising others instead and blaming others and society for their own problems.

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Genesis 6:5-9:

"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. "

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how was this passage misrepresented? God killed all animals and insect life, for no particular reason.
Posted by Steel, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:34:36 PM
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Peta are a radical vegan group, who don’t let the truth interfere with preaching
their dogma or raising money from the public. Marketing is their speciality, not
knowledge about the topics which they get involved with.

As such, we will have to hold them responsible for the suffering and misery which
their actions will cause to merino sheep, in the name of ignorance and flawed
philosophy. Sheep will suffer, because of Peta, that is basics of it. All very sad
really.

*Look at the film at the link Dickie provided,*

Nicky, not everyone is as gullible as you are. Marketing specialists are employed
to put this stuff together, they want to push your emotional buttons and clearly
you are a sucker. There is not a field of human activity, where you could not take
a camera and film things that should not be happening. As I’ve explained before,
if I wanted to create propaganda against marriage, I could put some you beaut
websites together, using extreme examples. At some point you have to be intelligent
enough to sit back and look at the big picture, not just isolated examples put there
to suck you in. You need a course in emotional intelligence, to learn to separate
emotion from reason. The big picture matters, not isolated incidents or extreme
examples. I thought you claimed to be intelligent?

My claim was that humans evolved to have larger brains then other species. What is
right or wrong, depends on your subjective opinion, there is no objective morality.

I use nature as a guide to life and one species eating another is part of life and part
of nature. If you want to live unnaturally, ok, but don’t try to force your dogma down the
throats of the rest of us. The worms will recycle even you in the end
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:38:01 PM
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*Any anaesthesia, myopinion - or a mere painkiller? No, I thought not.*

Any thoughts of getting off your arse down there in the city Dickie,
and making sure that they are freely available for farmers to use?

No, I thought not.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:41:54 PM
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Posted by Nicky, Wednesday, 28 May 2008

“Myopinion, you are already a self-confessed animal cruelty practitioner. I wonder if you have watched or seen the filmed and photographic evidence?”

Nicky your statements about me really are pathetic and flawed. I doubt that your statement about me being a self-confessed animal cruelty practitioner would stand up in a court of law. I have restrained myself from making my comments too personal, but you’re “wearing me thin”. As for “looking back on my shameful life”, I don’t have a shameful life except probably to fanatics like you.

However you and dickie are trying, and quite successfully up to this point, of concentrating the argument towards me instead of the topic thread, which is PETA.
I have decided as the person who started this thread that I am not going to let you kidnap it for your own personal gratification.

Let’s look at PETA’s unwarranted attack on the Australian Wool Industry. Below is the link to AWI that shows that PETA is MISINFORMING THE PUBLIC about the AWI.

http://www.woolisbest.com/latest_news/2007/petaMisinformed240807.htm

Wool is Australia’s second biggest export to China after iron ore, and was worth AUD 1.27 billion dollars of exports to the Australian economy in 2006.

This is what PETA is trying to destroy, the livelihood of over 50,000 Australian wool producers and the livelihoods of the people that work for them. This scenario would also have a detrimental effect on small and large business owners in country areas, truck drivers, the rail system which is used in some parts to cart the wool, shipping lines, dock workers and the list goes on. Apart from the income that would be lost in exports.

Facts on mulesing:

http://www.wool.com.au/2010/Background_on_Mulesing/page__9063.aspx
Posted by myopinion, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:44:55 PM
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