Every year millions of kangaroos,and other natives die agonising deaths due to drought and bush fires.
Why doesn't the animal welfare league address this problem,or are they just being selective about which suffering they want to be outraged by?We watch wild life shows of lions eating wildebeast alive,and justify it as the operation of nature that should not be hindered.

I see a real double standard here by many involved in the Animal Welfare League.

Everything must die and the over whelming majority of farmers treat their animals humanely.

We apoligise to people interested in Animal Welfare.



Its clear to intelligent fair minded people we are unable to work



PALE stands for People Against live Exports.



PALE and RSPCA QLD share some expences but mostly is paid by RSPCA QLD.



The Telstra address for PALE is RSPCA Brisbane Head office. We have worked in conjuction for many years. We supply the offices and conference areas and lawyers consultants advisers when required for HKM

please See our joint proposal to the Animal Welfare enquiry



http://www.halakindmeats.com/submissions.html



Offices equipment work staff computers ,internet ,insurances computer techs ,air travel, stationary , petition expences, petition hosting web page expences and much more are paid by RSPCA QLD.



The staff are non paid including myself.



They worked tirelessly to improve Animal Welfare along with Mark Townend and Many Others of The RSPCA QLD Branch.



PALE is simply a Not for Profit Organisation working in Conjunction with another not for Profit Organisation towards the common goal to improve animal welfare.



PALE organisation nor myself have never claimed to be RSPCA.



We claim who we are PALE working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD.



Which is what we are. And RSPCA QLD are a not for profit organisation working in conjunction with PALE



Its really quite simple.



mjpb you are correct.



Thank You Scout and Cilivia [others]





Information on People Against Live Exports and Intensive Farming in Conjunction with RSPCA QLD may be found by clicking onto RSPCA QLD and scroll down to live exports.



Please take a moment to sign our petition



http://www.rspcaqld.org.au/



http://www.livexports.com/



Farmers requiring overseas buyers and the co joint Farms Please click here



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The Staff and and myself can say we are devasted. One person on this forum who has gone beyond the PALE

comments causing great stress to our organisation and that of our wonderful CEO RSPCA QLD.



This matter is now being handled by our lawyers

Antje - let me quote you from one of your previous posts (remember when I was concerned about damage you were doing to my business, posting private emails, business names? Refusing to delete them?)

"So What"

Guys, this is the end of this argument. No more. Wendy does have a relationship with RSPCA. To what degree we are no longer going to explore. I've spoken to the RSPCA, which is something I suspect no-one else has done.

Two participants in this debate have been suspended indefinitely. I will do the same to any others that want to keep picking fights.

Hopefully, after a couple of days thought, you will all have cooled down. For the moment, I think we know where everyone stands, and let's move on.

The purpose of this site is to have discussion, not abusive argument. Sometimes as the moderator it is hard to know when the line has been crossed, and frequently it is a cumulative thing. Good humoured jibes cross the line and become bad humoured insults. This discussion has definitely crossed the line.

I'd suggest that if anyone wants to progress discussion in this area they need to find some current example in the news of something to do with animal husbandry and deal with that. You've got lots of opportunities there. Keeping on with this particular thread is most likely going to be counterproductive.

Hello Arjay,
Welcome to the forum.
I will try and answer your question as well as I can.
I agree our wildlife dies agonising deaths through drought and bush fire.

These arsonists should receive maximum punishment, as they not only destroy wildlife habitat but also properties and lively hoods, but as always they get away with a slap on the wrist.

Perhaps you like to have a look at http://www.livexports.com/roo.html

There are a few kangaroo friendly farmers and one of them is Len Richards.
I don`t know if you heard about Lulu the Kangaroo who captured thousands of hearts around the world the day she saved Len Richards life….
As I understand Animal welfare groups especially wildlife groups are guided by the NPWS rules and regulations.

You are not supposed to feed wildlife in general…
But I personally always provided water, food and a multi mineral block for my released animals.
Hope this reply is of any use to you.

Drought, flood, fire - all part of nature.

Fire is natures clean up crew, regenerates plant life. Did you know that most of our native grass seeds are actually either heat tolerant or NEED that extreme heat to germinate? No food, no wildlife at all. Arsonists? Sure, some fires in cities are caused by arsonist, not too many kangaroos there though.

Even a campaign against mother nature herself will not change things. There are a lot of things in this life you will have to just accept.