Yabby

I think most people know RSPCA are not over the top and they have not suggested farmers dont operate.


They could start some co ops and demand the Government to change levies and tarrifs and allow plant staff.


The programe is from Muslim Leaders and you would be very wrong to refer to refer to me as a housewife.

I can either sit down a watch a 360 view of the ocean or keep trying out this new lap top. For once you got it right.

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*I think most people know RSPCA are not over the top and they have not suggested farmers dont operate.*

Gertrude, in the West Australian of last Saturday, is an article
about the court case. In that article it states

"The RSPCA and Animals Australia vowed to carry on their fight
against the controversial live trade and called on the Federal
Govt to ban the trade immediately."

Now either the journalist got it wrong, or the RSPCA are claiming
things that you don't even know about. If its correct, then
what the RSPCA want would cause huge suffering to enormous
amounts of animals, apart from sending farmers to the wall.

I don't think that these people have the foggiest, as to the
repercussions of what they are calling for. Good intentions
are not enough to create positive outcomes, no matter how
much these people claim to love animals and are naive to the
realities of what they are calling for.

Yabby

And you and I both know Councils and Governments
could fix the problem easily working with farmers`
RSPCA are saying start taking steps NOW to
reopen abattoirs here' I am trying to take a break so any posts will be short.
The case has served a purpose the time delay being pretty clear.There is no problem now to pick up on that and run with it but I am not so sure even now they will co operate and there you have the !real problem.People can only offer so many time regardless of the cause then they run out of energy.
There are other courts and other lawyers . Time will tell I guess what pale does but for now I bid you goodnight.

Gertrude, Lynne Bradshaw was on radio today, saying that the
live trade should stop now!

Clearly the RSPCA are taking a similar stance as AA. I don't think
that they have the foggiest, about the ramifications of those sorts
of claims.

The court case was more about the ambiguous wording of the changed
legislation. Ok, so now its time to change the legislation.

Yabby
Thats was my point six years ago but as you know its hard to get people to actually work on solutions by tacking it from a grass root basis.
Also you would hope for some support from farmers themselves.

I mean look at yourself for example. Sure you have mentioned some sensible points and things that they Government must change but only in passing.
I am also sure you read my posts where I said Farmers Federations HAVE been contacted by Asians directby phone many times expressing interest to meet farmers direct and look for plants.
Now Yabby regardless of what you think its WRONG of Farmers Federation NOT to pass on these requests to farmers.
Farmers dont need FF telling them what to do. They can thnk for themselves. No its all to protect the live trade and thats a fact!

Most farmers I have spoken to do not approve of the live trade but I think they feel oh well what can I do about it- I am just a simply farmer or similar thoughts.
I have been informed that Minister Burkes advisor will talk with us about our ideas and I personally feel the UN should be offering some assistance to farmers who do the right thing.

RSPCA have been more than patient Yabby going right back almost twenty years so dont blame them.
Your stuck o live but only i think because you love to annoy the girls. I think your a born torment.
You and I know IF you wanted to round up some farmers and meet with Asians you could make it work.
However you prefer to stay on the other side of the fence.
There is nothing i can do about that so I dont worry.

Gertrude, however many times I have questioned your sanity, I concede that
you are about the only one out of the whole animal libber brigade who realises
that sending thousands of farmers broke, is not the answer to anything. Perhaps
that’s why I have continued these debates.

Fact is that AA, AL, Peta or the RSPCA, don’t have the right to force their ideology
down others throats, which it seems is what they are trying to do. Quite frankly,
right now I see little difference between this lot and the anti abortion brigade.
Tactics are similar, they are few in number and it seems just as fanatical preaching
their ideology, which they would like to turn into law. Based on whose principles?

They have the right to believe them, but not to enforce them on the rest of us.

It seems to me that the whole lot of them, don’t understand the first thing about
marketing. Customers decide what they want to buy. Its not up sellers to dictate
to customers. That is marketing 101, ignore it at your peril.

I am the first who has encouraged the building of more abattoirs in WA, as I
understand the cosy, backward little club that the local industry has become
through lack of competition. That cause is both political and geographic.

Even today, animals slaughtered locally means that farmers are being shafted
bigtime, every day. It’s a scandal of first degree! Animal libber people
are simply playing into the hands of local processors, who must be licking
their chops at the thought of buying livestock for a song, if they achieve their
way. WA farmers would have to write off around 200 million $ a year,
next they will be told that they should be a business!

Clearly few of these people give a darn. Their disdain for farmers has been
loudly expressed, even on OLO.

The market has to solve this problem, not weird ideology by a few fanatics.

Anyone is free to build another meatworks in WA. We have the world’s
cheapest sheep here, waiting to be bought.