Hi all
Poor Cuphandle, you really copped it, didn't you? I didn't see any filthy language, and with respect to the educational standards of the posts, I'd have to say that your grammar, spelling and punctuation is right up there, which is more than can be said for Macropod Whisperer. We now have the threats creeping in here as well, which seems to be usually the case if someone hurts PALE's feelings. It will be legal action next. One wonders whether Macropod Whisperer is the same person who used to post on other threads under the name of Antje Struthman and whose grammar, spelling and punctuation are remarkably similar to that of PALE.

Macropod Whisperer - who is MS? Why do you, PALE and TarynW copy sections of posts before responding to them? You are wasting your word limit, apart from anything else.

MW, I do not condone animals being needlessly destroyed by anyone - in fact, I do not condone animals being destroyed at all. But since humans have created the problem of unwanted companion animals, if it must be dealt with, it must be done humanely. PETA has more money than the RSPCA because they are so much better at what they do, I'd suggest. Why on earth would they support the RSPCA? Their philosphies are worlds apart. I do not belong to a group, so I therefore do not "put money" anywhere.

Cuphandle's earlier post about animals at abattoirs (let's call them for what they are - slaughterhouses) was very telling and explains in part, I suggest, why people do not want to get involved with PALE and its HKM deal. Probably the threats of legal action annoyed them a bit too. But still we don't know for sure because PALE won't tell us.

Finally, MW, I have given all the answers I am prepared to give. And speaking of abuse, it was you who introduced it to this thread, not Cuphandle. Get over yourself.

Cheers
Nicky

Cuphandle said

You seem to be conducting some sort of vendetta against any and all suggestions or comments posted by "Nicky"and the like!

PALE replies

That is untrue. We have asked you both to post your suggestions for a year or so.

I ask you again right now- What are your suggestions. You don’t seem to have any.

Other than rubbish ours. That is a matter of record on this forum.

Cuphandlesaid

in your case the "trigger" word in this thread was "meat" .

pale replies

Hilarious, and each time we post about meat or our efforts to increase chilled meet with the HKM program
You disrupt it with bombarding us with insults and disrupting the thread.

You want to talk meat= that’s a step in the right direction but ‘ somehow ‘I doubt your sincerity.

You don’t want to talk about meat Cuphandle.

What I can’t for the life of me understand is why nobody has taken us up on the projects to increase Halal veggies with a chain of fast food stores in which you would also be free to campange against those big bad HKM people and meat eaters in general.

HKM is just one project and as I pointed out to you before that bloody awful Music you keep complaing about on the site is the bushman’s bible= Slim Dusty Cattle Men from the High Planes
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http://www.halakindmeats.com/

PALES Web site as you see is in Conjunction with RSPCA QLD= However you will also see the CEO RSPCA QLD on HKM web page along with the Muslim leaders of Australia .

http://www.livexports.com/

If it’s good enough for them to support the farmers then hey we don’t give too much concern for a pair of what we suspect is well intended but emotionally unstable veggies.

BTW Debbie and Suzanne we were actually instructed not to even try! Working with either of you after many attempts to reason with either of you failed.

It’s good you both care about animals but really your doing them no favors by never ending vicious attacks on pale or RSPCA either.

Speaking of instability - who, for heavens sake, are Debbie and Suzanne? Presumably more people who had the temerity to disagree with you and paid the price of the gratuitous insults. BTW - "Plains" in the context of your music is spelled like that, not as in aeroplanes.

You said on another thread that you had operations running in various states - and I asked under what name/s and you didn't respond. Are they a figment of PALE's overactive imagination? The AMIEU doesn't seem to be able to make the connection.

Neither Cuphandle (although I don't know who he/she is) nor I have pretended to have the solutions. But I'd suggest it would be fairly obvious that the HKM notion really doesn't seem to be making progress (therefore is not a solution, but if it did, could PALE still claim to be NFP?). Furthermore, for myself at least, I would not support the breeding of more and more animals just to kill them, and quite brutally at that. Tens of thousands of tonnes of meat are shipped to the Middle East every year so I can't imagine what the advantage of HKM would be over the established slaughterhouses. But I'm sure you'll tell me. Perhaps the CEO of RSPCA Queensland might like to update his support too.

You should read the stats at Animals Australia's website.

Nicky

"Furthermore, for myself at least, I would not support the breeding of more and more animals just to kill them, and quite brutally at that"

Thats a rather emotional statement Nicky, Just to kill them?

But thats how the animal welfare groups work isnt it? Dramatic and exaggerated statements, manipulated photos etc etc designed to play on the emotions of people that do care about animals. Trouble is, they, like yourself and others here, have no answer but to "go veggie or vegan" and that just aint going to happen. It then becomes necessary to constantly keep these visions in people's minds or, without a real solution, they quickly forget.

IMO these 'veggie' animal welfare groups care more about their own ideals and ego than they do about the animals.

Pales plan may have a few holes and may never get off the ground, but at least they have one :)

You pathetic would-be dictators out there:
Once again I would remind you thickards that this Thread was started by myself, and it appears that you lot are so rabidly intent on espousing your own twisted agendas that you have thrust aside any chance of logical reference to the original subject!

I came out in support of "Nicky" because I felt that she out of the lot of you was the only one educated and intellectual enough to continue any reasonable discussion. I DO NOT know "Nicky" and for your information I am a 69 year old retired male farmer who unfortunately has more to do than spend his time exchanging childish insults back and forth with obvious "plonkers"!


Nicky:
I wouldn`t bother wasting my time with the majority on this Thread which itself has now obviously been taken over by a bunch of illiterate posteriors, who think that they are the answer to all the world`s sufferings....maybe they too are awaiting the arrival of that fictitious space ship to take them all off this planet and to eternal paradise, somewhere up there in their warped imaginations!

Did someone mention my name?
Nicky said
Why do you, PALE and TarynW copy sections of posts before responding to them?
Posted by Nicky,

Tayn, here Nicky- What a strange comment. Here are a few more I read as follows full of abuse and picking on person whos first tongue isnt English but has done a enormous amount of hands on work and reasonsible for introducing new codes through RSPCA QLD
Oh heres your next comment >
"PALE does actually have a website (watch out for the music!).

Nicky Its clear to me if not others you have problem- get help
Why is it you think you lot can bounce and demand.
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Here is some of you charm yet again>
"BTW - "Plains" in the context of your music is spelled like that, not as in aeroplanes."
FYI the web page was updated by a eighteen years old boy who loves animals and spends ALL his time helping
Your such a &^%4$#

RE this comment-
"The AMIEU doesn't seem to be able to make the connection."
Nicky the pale petition is up on AMIEU in each state other than WA because we requested they leave the PAACT on there because they do some GREAT work

Here you are again>
Perhaps the CEO of RSPCA Queensland might like to update his support too.
Well Golly Nicky Yes sir I am sure he will SPRING to YOUR attention
Who do YOU THINK you ARE.

Then you say- How predictable-

"You should read the stats at Animals Australia's website".

Nicky why is that?
If you have something interesting why not say so.

Three!of my family members donate to PETA two! to AA One! to AL in two! states.
We are a family of animal overs but I choose to work with pale because at least they have a plan and because they dont dicate to what members can do or say.
And they are NOT a unfriendly bunch of %$#@
You should be ashamed of yourself