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Nicky Said

Speaking of instability - who, for heavens sake, are Debbie and Suzanne?
Perhaps the CEO of RSPCA Queensland might like to update his support too. You should read the stats at Animals Australia's website.
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 2 February 2008 11:54:28 PM

*Pale Answers*
Ah, Debbie that where it gets really interesting.> Animals Australia Member Societies> AA and supporting PETA
Of course and Suzannes articles for AA web site were GOOD BTW= You have just demonstrated to the public the endless attack on our organization by the extreme people of which you are a part of.> So to answer now your question WHO is Debby its in writing below for all to see>
Member Societies // Animals Australia
Animal Activism QLD. PO Box 703 Stones Corner QLD 4120 Contact: Debra Morris Web: http://www.animalactivism.org Email: +. Animal Liberation QLD. PO Box 463 ...
www.animalsaustralia.org/about/member_societies.php - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

Dear Ah```````Nicky
I can assure you I knew “from the first posts including the different IDs I have ALWAYS known that I was debating but decided as you cared for animals I would let it go.
Your dislike of RSPCA QLD CEO is also unwarranted. God Knows he tried to explain things to you. He never said he was happy with the laws or the codes did him? Your dislike of him is unwarranted but here is the proof again in writing below.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/qld/stories/s1253968.htm

Pale as you know works in conjunction with RSPCA QLD on live exports ONLY and RSPCA QLD supports ANY moves to faze out live for chilled. That’s includes HKM.

Of course Suzanne and Debbie have been very much involved with Animals Australia and PETA but hey why not are honest.

It was in fact I myself who suggested you two worked together in the first place and provided contact email address. (I knew you would get on life a house on fire)

To further answer your questions >

Catherine Cooke
STOP TASMANIAN ANIMAL CRUELTY, TAS
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 1 February 2008 7:23:28 PM

To Be Contiuned

CONTIUNED

Pale comments
Believe it or not I take NO pleasure in doing this but you have both gone too far and left a concerning trial...

Nicky said
Tony Burke will find himself under seige.
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 1 February 2008 7:23:28 PM

Pale comments
What a ridiculous comment. You do harm to the animals and other organizations by this type of comment.

Nicky said

I suggest why people do not want to get involved with PALE and its HKM deal. Probably the threats of legal action annoyed them a bit too. But still we don't know for sure because PALE won't tell us.

Pale replies
Interesting comment especially if you happened to be Peter McGauran

Nicky said
As for the PALE petition being on the website of every AMIEU branch, unfortunately, it is not even on one of them

Pale relies
Actually you silly girl the pale petition was ordered to be on every state in Australia by the federal leader years ago. What concerns me is your attitude towards fellow animal lovers and this vicious control which you extreme lot demand.
Here it is FYI=

http://amieu.asn.au/search.php?q=aboard

AMIEU Federal Branch
The AMIEU (Australasian Meat Industry Employees' Union) is a union for all persons working in the ... Live Export Petition. PETITION VIEW SIGNATURES ...
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Regarding you comment we threatened to sue AA= not so it’s the other way around= they threatened to sue us because we copied something Yabby said. Well At Least Peter McGauran Has Company I guess.

I put it to you that you are not even interested to assist to open a chain of fast food veggie chains.

Lets face it PETA can afford it girls and hey we have offered several times to give you contacts of people very interested.
They are NOT only interested in Halal meat but you know that already!
Your agenda and who you work with is VERY clear.

Why dont you ask Ingred or Glenyse as leaders to debate us?

Cuphandle, my apologies - I am abandoning this thread after this one, I'm afraid. I don't know what they drink or smoke at PALE, but I've run out of patience with this nutter fringe which has achieved nothing and whose contributions are worth even less.

I would have thought that there would be some rules on this forum about behaviour - maybe there are. There should certainly be something about lunatic assertions about all sorts of people that have no relationship with fact, and using and corrupting threads to tout for business, which is basically all PALE does - and not very well either, because there doesn't actually appear to BE a business. In future, I shall either abandon any thread to which PALE "contributes" (and I use the terms loosely), or respond to discussion points from others and ignore anything I see from PALE and its equally bizarre cohorts (if indeed they exist. They seem to be the product of a deluded mind). PF, you were right all along, I'm afraid. Yabby, you have more patience than I do, I'm afraid.

PALE, I cannot believe that your RSPCA CEO in Queensland has any idea of the sort of inane rubbish you publish about him, nor would he be silly enough to support the untruthful, abusive and vitriolic nonsense you write. Do you not ever read your posts and realize how insane (and illiterate) you appear? If you ever want to have a sensible debate with anyone, you have a steep learning curve ahead of you. It is now absolutely clear why none of the other groups would have anything to do with you. You give a bad name to anything to do with animal welfare.

Nicky

nicky

Of course you would bolt after being exposed-.

You need not either drag cuphandle into it because you well know to whom we were directing our comments.Likewise Dickie who was at least honest as to who she was.

I see she had the good sense to pull out when your attacks on us because we work to support farmers became over the top.

I further note she picked up on the link we posted into the Senate enquiry into Abattoirs in WA.



In all the true loss to this forum if we are talking animal welfare would have to be Dickie.

You girls waiste so much time that could be put to good to help animals.
We have no problem with others be they veggie or main stream.

PETA as Taryn pointed out enjoys support from many of our members and Animals Australia also. Tayns family being one of them.

We have a different approach sure- but its to the same end.

Your never going to stop people eating meat Nicky you can only improve things as much as possible. We are doing something practicle about diverting live to chilled.

We are honest and upfront as to what we think and what we are trying to acheive. We post in our 'real names because I assure you Taryn is Taryn and Antje Is Antje and so forth.

I mean how unkind to pick on spelling when you know shes Germann.

As for RSPCA QLD CEO hes a hard working person who has spear headed many special programes. He tried to get Animal Activism QLD Debbie to understand he can not use material in court that has been gained by tress pass or break and enter but hed love any material he or his inspectors 'can' use.


It is the Government that allow people to treat animals in barbaric ways and the Government that must wake out to themselves and make changes to the laws.


Yabby How do you breed snakes?

"Ahh, but at least that makes them uncomplicated and highly
predictable :)"

Does this mean then Yabby that you are not a snake keeper? Maybe then you have more in common with that other species, Snake in the Grass :)

Nicky there are rules but dont expect anyone to be watching over and policing the thread. You need to click the little red button under the offensive post to bring it mananagement's attention.

Nicky:
I like yourself have decided to retire from this particular Thread, but in doing so would suggest that any reasonably thinking individual, after browsing and digesting the garbage that has emanated from "some groups" in response to my perfectly sensible originating question, should now retire, as you and I are doing, and leave the standover malcontents to continue their espousing their narrow-minded views,....eventually when they are the only ones left contributing, the whole Thread will then grind to a halt and they will inevitably either start another one or alternatively "invade" someone else`s Thread!