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Why is religion blamed for the Gaza conflict?

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"“Nowhere is safe in Gaza,” Guterres declared. But no one is safe in Israel either.

Surrounded by autocracies that hate it, even deny its right to exist, Israel naturally lashes out at its enemies to ensure its survival, just as Western nations bombed Germany and Japan to bring about an end to World War II, for the sake of global peace.

A ceasefire would give Hamas, which appears to have grievously miscalculated, time to regroup and plan further attacks.

Israel’s operations have made clear progress, methodically wiping out Hamas commanders. Israel is in the best position to judge the appropriate response to the horrors of October 7, given it has to live with the consequences.

Squawking about Israel’s supposed transgressions of the laws of war, which were written decades ago before such state-backed terrorism was even imagined, ignores the existential realities Israel faces.

If Guterres doesn’t agree with Israel’s right to exist, then he’s forgetting the role of the UN itself in 1947, which agreed to the partition of Palestine which foreshadowed the creation of Israel a year later.

Israel, like any liberal democracy, isn’t perfect. But it’s vastly superior to the primitive terrorist outfit that still, just, runs Gaza.

Even the Arab nations are secretly hoping Hamas evaporates in the Israeli bombardment.

Whatever the wrongs of decades ago, the UN, as a body founded on democratic principles, should give the benefit of the doubt to the only bona fide liberal democracy in the Middle East on a question of its very survival."
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 9 December 2023 3:29:26 AM
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“Nowhere is safe in Gaza,” Guterres declared.
But no one is safe in Israel either."
Well they Israelis should have realised you can't keep kicking the dog 'cos it soon realises it has nothing to lose by biting back.
Calling Palestinians 'dogs and animals' doesn't make it true.
Subjecting them to the same propaganda measures as the Germans did to the Jews just means that the Jews in Israel learned nothing other than how to behave as thugs.
All human beings are entitled to their dignity and the right to pursue happiness.
No one is entitled to deprive them of that, least all the Israelis!
Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 2:18:47 PM
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Calling Jews descendants of pigs and monkeys is likewise trouble making.
Mohammad was the first terrorist to attack the Jews when his gang
attacked a Jewish village in Arabia. They set the patten for how you
attack other people and Hamas learnt that lesson.
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:23:56 PM
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Bezza,
Oh I see, so you want to go back to when,
'when his gang attacked a Jewish village in Arabia.
So if every action has a corresponding action, what gave cause to this attack, in the name of religion, you mention.
So why stop there, why not include the royalty and governments of western countries that appointed those of the Hebrew faith as tax collectors and then claimed it was the Jews who were responsible for the excessive taxes whenever the populace rose in revolt.
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 2:45:05 PM
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The Koran identifies Jews and Kafir [unbelievers] as dogs and monkeys, they refuse dogs in their premises because they are unclean. Hamas take an extremist view of the Koran as taught by Mohamed, for 1,400 years, the same values as Mohamed taught at the point of a knife or gun is expected you live if you are Muslim. Islam is based on fear and hate is the reason they cannot love and forgive. The extremist view must be eradicated from society as it destroys civilized society
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 14 December 2023 8:13:47 AM
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Sp Del, Islam is trouble everywhere.
Mohammad was a desert robber by tradition and attacked caravans passing
through Arabia. However it is thought by many that he did not exist
and that Islam was dreampt up a hundred or so years later.
But all that does ot matter anyway.
Now even the Iran run Huties in Yeman are attacking ships in the Red Sea.
We might be sending a ship to patrol the area.
The quickest and fastest way to stop that is for the Insurance
companies to remove cover on ships in the Red Sea.
That above all will bring the whole world out on these terrorist groups.
Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 14 December 2023 10:02:15 PM
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