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Why is religion blamed for the Gaza conflict?
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It's like the West is incapable of acknowledging the tunnel vision reality that it supports and has normalised a relationship with an radicalist colonial / settler ethnic-terrorist apparteid state (or entity) that has an idiology and policy of ethnic cleansing in place for 100 years.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 December 2023 10:55:48 AM
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Baldrick,
I see that you are bending over for Hamas the same way you bent over for Putin. Hamas has been caught out lying several times yet you take the casualty figures they put out as gospel. Is this because you are stupid or because you knowingly repeat lies because you adore terrorists? This is a war that Hamas (who purportedly represents the people of Gaza) started and which Israel has the right to retaliate. If Israel was bent on genocide (genociding is not a word) the number of bombs it has dropped could have killed 100s of 1000s. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 17 December 2023 11:10:02 AM
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"I see that you are bending over for Hamas the same way you bent over for Putin."
- Lol, don't try to make me laugh; - You fool. "Hamas has been caught out lying several times yet you take the casualty figures they put out as gospel. Is this because you are stupid or because you knowingly repeat lies because you adore terrorists?" Well there's not really any decent choices in the options you set... - the fact I recognise this means I can't be stupid (not entirely anyway). That leaves 'option b' "repeat lies because you adore terrorists", - I guess I'll have to go with that, since you didn't include a 'None of the above'... (Why lie about he number of dead? There's hardly a damn shortage - It's not like there's some sneaky little Palestinian working in the human rights organisation medical department telling some other Palestinian working there he needs to fiddle with and boost the numbers - and create fake names for the fake dead to document - like what? Seriously that's what you think? Like there's not plenty more dead unrecovered to find and count?) No, I PERSONALLY think it seems to be a reasonably accurate kind of figure, given that 68% of the buildings in Northern Gaza, home to a million people, have been damaged or destroyed. If that figure was for 'dead bodies recovered only' which I think it is, then it does not include dead bodies 'not recovered', whole families for example killed in airstrikes and building collapses and left rotting amongst the rubble of the apartment buildings they previously lived in. So, I actually think the true number of dead in Gaza is significantly higher than reported, to be honest. Possibly even magnitudes higher, double or three times higher in total, maybe. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 December 2023 3:39:37 PM
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Hi Josephus
"The Koran identifies Jews and Kafir [unbelievers] as dogs and monkeys, they refuse dogs in their premises because they are unclean. Hamas take an extremist view of the Koran as taught by Mohamed, for 1,400 years, the same values as Mohamed taught at the point of a knife or gun is expected you live if you are Muslim. Islam is based on fear and hate is the reason they cannot love and forgive. The extremist view must be eradicated from society as it destroys civilized society" My response: http://www.lpj.org/posts/gaza-16th-december-2023.html?s_cat=1102 "Around noon today, December 16 2023, a sniper of the IDF murdered two Christian women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza, where the majority of Christian families has taken refuge since the start of the war. Nahida and her daughter Samar were shot and killed as they walked to the sisters convent. One was killed as she tried to carry the other to safety. Seven more people were shot and wounded as they tried to protect others in the church compound. No warning was given, no notification was provided. They were shot in cold blood inside the premises of the Parish, where there are no belligerents. Earlier in the morning, a rocket fired from an IDF tank targetted the Convent of the Sisters of Mother Theresa (Missionaries of Charity). The Convent is home to over 54 disabled persons..." They kill Christians in cold blood in the Holy Land, yet you support them? Should their extremist views also be eradicated from society as it destroys civilised society? You've still got at least one eye closed, maybe both. 'their extremist views' whose extremist views? which views exactly? Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 December 2023 5:52:57 PM
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This is a war that Hamas (who purportedly represents the people of Gaza) started and which Israel has the right to retaliate.
Yep they do, Israel has a right to defend themselves. - That means attack military targets that can harm them. It does not mean it's ok to kill non-combatants. As well as this though, Palestinians have a 'right' if you call it that, to resist the oppression of their oppressors. Israel calls it terrorism, but realistically its actually resistance. Which means that if 6 year old Ahmad throws a rock at a tank, you don't shoot him in the head or bust into his house at 2am and execute or imprison his parents. People under occupation have human rights under the Geneva convention. You can't just murder them for fun or for collective punishment as a reprisal attack that aims to cause high civilian casualties, it's a war crime. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 December 2023 6:08:11 PM
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Baldrick,
The motivation for Hamas to lie about casualties is to put pressure on Israel which they have been caught out lying about before. As for legitimate targets, a room containing Hamas and civilians is a legitimate target. Deliberately shooting and beheading women and children is a war crime. Look it up before you look more like an idiot. Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 18 December 2023 11:23:44 AM
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