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Why is religion blamed for the Gaza conflict?

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Hmmm, here is my view of it all.
Islam is a very intolerant religion.
The Koran makes no excuse for advocating the killing of those that
reject Allah. It takes a hard line on kafirs (you and me) that refuse
to accept Allah and who refuse to pay the Jizaz tax that all
non moslems must pay to moslems.
They also believe that land once occupied by moslems, even for a short
time remains Islamic land forever. That is what gets them into a lot
of conflict.
Historically as far as I have learnt the Jews were originally known
as Canaanites who lived in that part of Mesopotamia as it was known before the Arab invasion.
The Jews lived there for about 3000 years.
So that part that was known as Judea in Roman times forms the homeland
of the Jews.
In the 7th century Islam was invented by someone, who some say never
existed, called Mohommad who said that an angel called Gabriel, gave
him the text of the Koran.
This is where it gets messy.
to be continued
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 4:05:37 PM
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Continued;
In the early 7th century after the death of Mohommad the then Calif
sent forth his armies to conquer the whole world, especially Rome.
The Arab armies were very successful as they conquered Syria, Egypt,
Persia, North Africa and India.
In 637 they took over Jerusalem and expelled the Jews.
An interesting fact puzzle here.
As the invasions from Arabia were supposed to start after the death
of Mohommad, how could he have mounted a horse with the head of a man
and flown off to meet Allah from the dome of the rock at the mosque
on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem ?

Anyway the Islamists managed by hook or by crook to force all the
Christians and Zoroastrians that was the religion to become Moslems
or else. This technique was very successful as it is still practised
in Africa today.

Become a moslem or pay the Jizaz or die ! Very convincing.
They ran into a lot of resistance in India which led
to the partition of India to Pakistan in 1945.
So today because the Islamic Arabs occupied what we know as Israel,
Judea or the West Bank for some time they believe it is theirs forever.
However when the UN restored the Area to the Jews the Moslems were to
say the least very upset.
This is where you came in !
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 4:32:01 PM
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Many people are unaware that in France on average two churches are
vandalised or if anyone there are threatened every day.
A priest was slaughtered before the alter.
A school teacher was decapitated because in an art class he showed an
image of Mohammad.
Islamic crime is a daily event in France. The situation in Germany is
very similar.
The theory is that as the number of moslems in the population gets to
be near 10% they start demanding that we change our practises to
suit their requirements.
They are becoming impatient in Europe with the progress to Eurabia.
Murders on public transport in Germany seems to be reported many times
a year.
Sweden is another case, Islamic crime has reached the stage where
explosion attacks in Stockholm has reached 200 a year.
Malmo has a very high percentage of moslems where the moslems bombed
the police station. The building was unrepairable and a new police
station was built like a fort.

In Africa Boko Haram gangs raid villages murder tens of Christians in
their church and take hostages. Yet we almost never hear reports of
these murderous campaigns in our media.
The activity of Moslems in Sydney & Melbourne in recent times are a
warning and echo of the way it developed in France Germany Sweden and the UK.
The media plays it all down or do not even report incidents.
The reluctance of Police to act has been a feature of the problem
in Europe. Example;
In the UK a man was bashing on the door of a house where his daughter
was being held as a sex slave by a Pakistani gang.
He called the police but they came and arrested the father !

If this all seems way out then you need to stop avoiding it all.
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 9:30:49 PM
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Dear Bezza,

Poor Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a Christian, he never claimed any relations with angels or flying on a horseback, and had nothing to do with the Quran, written at least 160 years after his death, before which there was no Islam.

People believe whatever they like to believe, and Muslims are no different. When their interests change, they will also find the necessary excuses to either modify or reinterpret their scriptures.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 10:19:20 PM
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Hello Yuyutsu, correct they do believe what they wish, but that is
the problem, it appears that most of them do believe it all.
Then a significant percentage will act on those beliefs.
Hence the attack in Israel on 7th October.
It does seem that Erdogan Pres of Turkey believes it all, and threatens
to act on his belief.
I did read one comment somewhere that a few parts of the Koran text
must have been written by someone in Iraq around the year 900ad because
of the grammar and some words were not in use till then.
However none of that matters, what matters is what they believe.

It is important for the police and security as well as the man in the
street to have some understanding of what the Moslem population believes.
Posted by Bezza, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 10:25:50 PM
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Bezza,

How do you know what the "Muslim population" believes?

You keep on and on with your sweeping generalizations
about this group of people. The Muslim population is
huge. There are many different cultures and languages
involved. And they don't all practice their beliefs
in exactly the same way. As neither do Jews, Christians,
or any other group. Plus there are the Sunni Muslims
and the Shía. Do you know their differences?

Your generalizations don't allow for individual differences.
And you really need to stop with your sweeping generalizations
about Muslims. Stick to talking about extremists and
fundamentalists - who exist in all religions - including
Christians.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 December 2023 5:46:41 AM
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