Little people postulate little thoughts in the hope to be recognised and accepted whilst sniggering in their delusional world of imaginary substance.
To these I suggest gardening as a meaningful pastime.

Oct 7 wasn't actually a terrorist attack any more than it was a military raid by Hamas. There was 2 military barracks and intelligence centres they targeted, and the Supernova music festival just happened to be right on the road between these 2 places.

First Hamas took the first military base in the south, they killed hundreds of IDF, and took down servers which contained info on Israeli agents in Gaza and West Bank which they took. Without that data and losing control over these intelligence centres Israel was blind.

Israel was enraged and initiated the Hanibal doctrine, they wanted to stop this force of Hamas moving north (through the music festival area) and reaching the second military base and intelligence centre.

So the Israelis went crazy and were killing everything that moved indiscriminately including the Israeli citizens at the music festival themselves.

And after being so completely caught off guard and made fools of, the Israelis have spent the last 2 months murdering everyone in Gaza in collective retribution and the ones left will probably die of thirst or starvation.

They've since had up to 5000 IDF members seriously wounded in their ground offensive.
Some reports say 3800, the number is probably somewhere in between.

Whatever the wrongs of decades ago, the UN, as a body founded on democratic principles, should give the benefit of the doubt to the only bona fide liberal democracy in the Middle East on a question of its very survival."

'benefit of the doubt' for killing 20,000 women and kids?
You really are a clueless and ignorant piece of crap aren't you.

Always willing to give your masters a free pass...
'Israel genocides 20,000 women and kids, move on everyone nothing to see here'
You supported this you piece of dog shite, and now you want everyone to look the other way and for Israel to get a free pass.

That's never going to happen.
The Israelis who took this genocideal response on innocents as well as attacks by Israeli settlers - belong in Nuremberg, prison or dead themselves.

Israel is a women and child murdering genocidal apartheid terrorist state, and it's not Anti-Semitic anymore to say it.
- Or maybe it is but maybe 'Anti-Semitic' doesn't work anymore.

So reap what you have sowed, own it, love it.
- Israel will be criticised FOREVER now, you grovelling murder apologist.

You support the murder of women and kids, so no one cares what you say anyway
You have the mindset of a murderous Israeli settler.

Israel is no more a democracy than Hitler and the NAZI's themselves were.
Stacking the judiciary so that the leader cannot be prosecuted for his own crimes is hardly the type of thing that democratic nations do.
This is what authoritarian dictators would do, and Netanyahu himself supported the rise of Hamas, to negate any path towards a 2 state solution.

Baldrick,

Firstly the 20,000 figure is from Hamas propaganda and is as untrustworthy as those from Russia.

The only ones trying to commit genocide are the Hamas fanatics from Gaza.

"Much of Gaza is in smouldering ruin. And Gazans are to blame. They voted for Hamas and polls show they would do so again, not that they have had the chance lately. Hamas likes to present itself as a resistance movement, but its raison d’etre is the slaughter of Jews – and anyone else who would support Israel’s democracy. Most Gazans agree with that.

Not long before Hamas’s October 7 slaughter of innocents in Israel that 57 per cent of Gazans expressed “a somewhat positive” opinion of Hamas, as did 52 per cent of Palestinians on the West Bank."

The Ramallah-based Arab World for Research and Development on November 14 published the results of a poll it had taken, one question of which was: How do you view the role of Hamas? A total of 48.2 per cent responded “very positively” while 27.8 per cent responded “somewhat positive”. That means 76 per cent of Palestinians support Hamas after its depraved foot-soldiers flooded into Israel in October incinerating families, killing babies, raping men and women they then shot dead, and decapitating with a shovel one woman who fought them off.

Gaza’s leader, Ismail Haniyeh, 1800km away at the time, saw it all unfold on Al Jazeera, which he watched in his luxury office in Doha, the capital of Qatar. (The Qatari government funds Al Jazeera, which is best known for its anti-Semitic, anti-American broadcasts and its glorification of Islamic terror.)

The Hamas boss and his 13 children prefer Doha to the challenges of life in Gaza – which he is not-so-slowly destroying from a distance.

Senior Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, pictured in Gaza City in 2014, is directing operations from his luxury digs in Doha, Qatar. Haniyeh is so murderously vile that even Fatah leader and Palestinian National Authority boss Mahmoud Abbas can’t stand him – although they do meet irregularly, bonded by their mutual hatred.

"Firstly the 20,000 figure is from Hamas propaganda and is as untrustworthy as those from Russia."

No. FIRSTLY Charter Boat, the truth IS NOT what you somehow decide it is. You hold US / Israeli lapdog status and bias and you spew your own Israeli propaganda as facts.
68% of buildings in Northern Gaza have been damaged or destroyed.
This is a verifiable fact, in the most populous place in the world.
This is like the bombing of Dresden, and a significant part of the dead lay uncounted rotting under the rubble.

"Much of Gaza is in smouldering ruin. And Gazans are to blame. They voted for Hamas and polls show they would do so again, not that they have had the chance lately."

I think you have the facts mixed up drongo, the Gazans did not drop the bombs on themselves, no. Israel did that, and it also bombed the schools, hospitals, ambulances, churches, mosques, journalists, cut off food, water, power, internet connectivity etc.
You speak as though the Palestinians did this to themselves...

"Hamas likes to present itself as a resistance movement, but its raison d’etre is the slaughter of Jews – and anyone else who would support Israel’s democracy. Most Gazans agree with that."

It doesn't 'present itself' as one,
(As you would like to bend over and present yourself to Netanyahu if you had the chance)
- It is one.
And talks / negotiations never worked, which made conflict and violence inevitable.
"http://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1735705180409155637"

Not long before Hamas’s October 7 slaughter of innocents in Israel that 57 per cent of Gazans expressed “a somewhat positive” opinion of Hamas, as did 52 per cent of Palestinians on the West Bank."

You mischaracterise.
Hamas broke through the fence and targeted surveillance posts and then Israeli military in their barracks in their pyjamas and slaughtered them, they also got to the servers that run all the surveillance and list Israeli informants, they were heading north to attack another military barracks / intelligence centre at which point Israel started engaging Hamas and other militants - killing people indiscriminately many of whom were Israelis, and started trotting out all these lies about rapes and beheaded babies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/27/hamas-attack-israel-october-7-hostages/

“They knew exactly what they were doing,” said Shai Asher, 50, a member of the armed kibbutz security squad that battled Hamas gunmen that day, struggling to communicate with each other and unable to call for backup.

“The phone network doesn’t work, WhatsApp doesn’t work, everything is broken down, our radio doesn’t work, all the channels of command are missing,” he recalled. “They had a flawless battle plan that they executed flawlessly.”

Israel sells these October 7 events as 'Palestinian terrorists on a rampage' to hide the fact it was a carefully executed military raid, by those under held occupation that was extremely successful'

Yes, the spirit of resistance and intifada is growing.
- What did I tell you all was going to happen?
Hamas is becoming more popular, even all over the world.
And what else did I tell you - 'keep killing them and see what happens'.

Israel is not destroying Hamas, it's actually digging it's own grave.

Next well be sending troops and weapons to save the Israelis when this thing becomes a wider war and they find themselves out of their depths...

But they have brought this on themselves.
Even US support has limits.

Palestinian National Authority boss Mahmoud Abbas might as well be an Israeli asset. He 'keeps the peace' by identifying Palestinian dissidents for the Israelis to imprison.