"The motivation for Hamas to lie about casualties is to put pressure on Israel which they have been caught out lying about before."

Your a fool SM.

18600 people mostly women and children.

You're the spastic trying to say '18500 were Hamas and 100 were non-combatants'
Obviously that's crap.
- Where's the proportionality?
Israel may have only killed a thousand Hamas or less for all we know.
or
'There was only about 50 innocent women and kids killed the rest were staged by Hamas'.

Meanwhile 68% or buildings in northern Gaza are damaged or destroyed.
What are you going to say to that?

'Israel did a doorknock, went house to house before they launched missiles, we determined only Hamas were home at the time'.

We know for a fact Israel went blind after October 7 and all their informants were rounded up after Hamas took the servers.

Their targeting for dropping the bombs isn't even done by humans.
Targets are determined by AI which PREDICTS amount of Hamas and non-combatants killed, meaning they know they are targeting civilians, but they don't know for certain they are targeting Hamas, who are likely down in the tunnels.

As for your claims of rapes and beheadings, show me footage or it didn't happen.
Don't give me one Palestinian haters testimony as evidence, like they did in the 40 beheaded babies saga.
What we know from that for certain is that Israel lies.

They are so sensitive to public opinion their people are calling our government demanding Aussie kids don't talk about the Israel / Gaza war at school, and that they must be taught about the holocaust and to identify Jews as eternal victims of the world.

Baldrick,

You are a complete moron to accept the figures from Hamas. How do you know how many people were killed? Have you got a photo or only the word of Hamas? As for the women and children killed you posted many of these photos yourself, you idiot. Most websites keep beheaded women and babies off the net.

As for the rest of your post it comes from your arse where your brains are.

"Most websites keep beheaded women and babies off the net."
- But dead kids with their skulls cracked open and brains missing doesn't count?

"As for the women and children killed you posted many of these photos yourself, you idiot."

'many'
- No, I didn't post tens of thousands of images, just a handful.

'you idiot'.
- Yeah whatever floats your boat mate, you support the murder of innocent women and kids, so I don't care if you call me names in response to my criticism of the murderers you defend.

Call me some more names if you want, I don't mind.
- Whatever makes you happy mhaze.

But I'm not going to support the needless killing of innocent people.
- That's where my line is, and many of you chuck hissyfits trying to say I'm wrong.
I don't care.

My line... it's really black and white you know.
On the one side, you don't support the killing or harm of innocent people.

And on the other side.

You play it down, you make excuses, bs arguments etc.

No, No - FECKING NO!
I will not side with wrongdoing.
I will not side with the killing or harm of innocent people.
Some of you may, but not me.

Simple. End of Story.

I just watched some Youtube of Muslim protesters in Europe & I’m afraid I can find no other explanation than sheer insanity.
I then saw another video that said that there was nothing but desert where Israel was established & that there was no Palestine.
Someone unbiased please enlighten us on this !

Indidual; Palestine is indeed a modern word, but the Romans did use a
similar word, but Palestine did not exist until the UN made it official
somewhere about 1960.
The Canaanites and then the Jews lived there about 3000 years ago.
I have seen suggestions that the Jews were a religious group within
the Canaanites.
The Arabs arrived on the scene as conquers in 637 Ad, ie very recently.