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That sinking feeling

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Baldrick, you definitely get the clown of the year award,

The $5bn of aid was delivered from 1991 mostly well before the popular uprising against Putin's puppet. You have zero evidence that it was paid to fund the uprising.

As for the guns supplied to Hamas they were almost exclusively Russian or Chinese not from the US or Ukraine as you claimed.

I see the surprise introduction of the ATACMS cluster munitions to hit air bases, warehouses and troop concentrations way behind the front lines with 8 Russian helicopters destroyed, dozens of Russian soldiers killed and at least one ammunition warehouse destroyed.

Russia has called off its offensive against Avdivka due to the massive losses of tanks, APVs and soldiers.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 9:46:30 AM
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I'm not sure if what you're saying is better or worse.
Let's say you're right, that's still over 220 million per year since the fall of the soviet union 'promoting democracy'.
It dates back even longer than Zbigniew Brzezinski's Grand chessboard.
http://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/ukraine-is-a-pawn-on-the-grand-chessboard

https://ciaotest.cc.columbia.edu/olj/fp/schmidt.html
They should not, however, endorse all his conclusions, least of all his aim and conviction that what is good for the United States is good for the world. The author welcomes further progress in European integration and the eastward expansion of NATO. But he refers to the countries of the region as if they were clients and dependents of the United States.

I don't know about 8.
I know about 3 or possibly 5.
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1714279786170945566

They'd have to keep this up for a year straight to make any difference, and the US is trying to get them 100bln and cut them loose in December till the US elections.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:05:20 PM
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Hi AC,

Russia just lost a number of helicopters. Do you think that the Ukrainians might be using a new drone to target them? I know that they have been experimenting with drones for the purpose for some time.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 6:39:30 PM
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Oh yeah Charter Boat,
We had this big argument a while back over the Ukrainian language laws.
I did in fact find out a little more why it was such an issue.

Remember how you even acknowledge that Ukrainian had to be used in Ukrainian government institutions.

- That included Schools -

Russian speaking kids in Russian speaking regions weren't able to use the Russian language at school.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 7:36:07 PM
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Baldrick,

The Russian milbloggers are claiming 9 helicopters amongst other equipment were destroyed. The ATACMS missile carries nearly 1000 small bomblets that will pepper an area 300m in diameter with shrapnel. Even aircraft that weren't completely destroyed won't be airworthy without many months of refurbishment.

There was also plenty of other equipment destroyed and about 35 soldiers killed.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 19 October 2023 3:21:01 AM
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Baldrick,

When the USSR fell apart, Ukraine was in a parlous state. The USA helped finance Ukraine along with other ex-Soviet countries such as Germany, Poland, Lithuania etc. The funding for Ukraine was over more than 23 years and had bugger all to do with the popular uprising.

As for making Ukrainian the national language, it was bound to happen. Russian wasn't forbidden, but everyone needs to learn Ukrainian DUH.

With the delivery of the ATACMS missiles, nowhere in the Donbas is safe for Russians.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 19 October 2023 12:11:49 PM
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