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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:10:39 AM
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Of course AC. I take everything with a grain of salt. I would point out that attempts are made to verify the conversations, but it is difficult as people could easily be arrested in Russia for talking to foreign media.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-intercepts/ Posted by Fester, Saturday, 21 October 2023 7:53:22 AM
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Hi Fester,
Interesting article... - Or even just the existence of the article. It shows that I'm not too far off the mark, whether the phone intercept claims are accurate or otherwise. I'm actually surprised they haven't been using drones to fly in fresh food and medical supplies, drones would be ineffective in say bringing in artillery shells, but they might be able to bring in small amounts of rifle ammunition and grenades for a grenade launchers, if they use them. It's scary the way that drones have changed the battlefield in modern warfare. One can only wonder where drone technology might be in a few more years. The pace of change in the world seems to be happening so quickly lately. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 8:46:59 AM
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Tank turret toss - we may have a record here
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1715473413093929142 - poor blokes.. damn this war, and all the others Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 9:48:32 AM
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New Russian air to air missile on the Mig-31 has taken down 15 Ukrainian aircraft in 3 days.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 23 October 2023 2:57:47 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-10/russia-s-current-account-surplus-jumps-boosted-by-energy-sales
Russia’s Current-Account Surplus Jumps, Boosted by Energy Sales - Surplus widened to $16.6 billion in 3Q, beating all forecasts - Central bank sees recovery in exports adding to surplus The Wests economic war on Russia backfired badly. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 8:58:48 AM
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I have to take it with a very large spoon of salt
Look at all the other claimed 'phone call intercepts' that are linked at the bottom of the article.
It's not just a physical war, it's also an information war.
You don't think Ukraine is in a position after it's failed counter-offensive and the focus on Israel / Gaza where it has a genuine need to boost morale or give an impression of winning the fight to maintain support for the war amongst Ukrainians?
- Or alternatively try to diminish support for the war amongst Russians?
- Or make claims that Russians are on the verge of collapse to get western partners to commit to more military aid?
They are going to use every opportunity to leverage this recent failed attempt with their information war.
I'm not saying it's all lies, just saying that all things considered this is the exact kind of thing which can't be verified either way and could be used to paint a different picture than what might actually be happening.
- And tomorrow there will be some mention of it in ShadowMinister's ISW reports and be paraded out all over western media as fact.
There are some reports of small Russian gains in Avdiivka, and the Ukrainian attack across the Dnieper in Kherson failed to gain a foothold and the Ukrainians were forced to step back.
But I also heard there were 63 confirmed armoured vehicle losses west of Avdiivka.