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That sinking feeling

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"It looks like the attack on Andrivka was anticipated"

I don't know, it's hard to say unless you have direct knowledge of info from troops on the ground. On the one hand it would be difficult with the amount of drone surveillance to hide a build up of heavy equipment and armoured columns on the move, where as on the other hand the fact that Russian helicopters were freely flying over Andriivka firing on enemy positions uncontested during the opening hours of the battle tells a different story.

I looked for the tweet I saw showing the helicopter footage but I couldn't find it.

"It looks like your sources of information are continually wrong."
"Russia is losing this war."

The fact that you are still playing this violin, shows the quality of your own sources.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 14 October 2023 1:30:30 PM
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It does look like the Ukrainians have successfully limited the Russian advance in the north of Andriiva, for now.
In some areas the Russians have had to step back, with a decent amount of armoured vehicle and troops losses.
Not enough have any huge impact as yet, but enough to force the Russians to regroup in the northern sector, and if you were on the Ukrainian side you'd be pleased with the defensive operations at this time despite quite a few losses on their side as well.

Ukrainian saboteurs took out a strategic bridge disrupting Russian supply lines prior to the offensive and were pretty successful with their drone attacks.
And the longer it goes on without Russians gaining a foothold the more Ukrainians will reinforce and make it tougher for the Russians to advance.

I'd now agree that the fact they took out that bridge supports shadowministers argument that the offensive was indeed anticipated.
Intense fighting is continuing, well see what happens in the coming days.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 15 October 2023 9:38:44 AM
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Baldrick,

Your tendency to post bullsh1t without checking facts makes you look like a moron. There were not 100 military personnel at the cafe.

The rural town had just over 300 inhabitants and no military facilities or significance. Russia killed 1/6 of its inhabitants almost exclusively women and children. This was yet another Russian war crime.

On the positive side, Russia has had another 2 ships disabled by drones or even their own mines and has lost up to 2000 soldiers and 100 tanks and APVs in a few days attacking Avdivka. Rotting Russians everywhere.

Putin is panicking as the Ruble collapses and his troops are massacred for no gain.

Ukraine is now getting the 300km range HIMARS rockets M1 tanks and soon F16s

Russia is losing the illegal war it started.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 16 October 2023 1:37:40 PM
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The latest thing that the Russians are running out of is body bags, the casualties from the attack on Avdrivka are so high that all hospitals are overflowing and the stock of body bags in Donetsk is insufficient.

The loss of Russian tanks and APVs is so high that they are resorting to meat waves running through barrages of cluster shells.

The west is preparing for the collapse of Russia.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 16 October 2023 3:15:35 PM
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Armchair Critic- you put me onto Victoria Nuland et al back during the Euromaiden event. Victoria Nuland seems to be a Hebrew Communist working for Hilary Clinton who was apparently mentored by apparent Hebrew Communist Saul Alinsky- it makes sense perhaps that Ukrainian PM Zelensky is also Hebrew. In a sense Putin could be considered to be a Russian Democratic Reformer- but the smoke is too dense to work out what is happening- if there was someone likely to be able to reform Russia from Communism it would likely be someone from the intelligence community. It's likely that China realizes that Russia may not be the most reliable ally.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 6:07:26 AM
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Come off the grass, SM
Why don't u go and cheer on some dead Palestinian women and kids or something...

"The latest thing that the Russians are running out of is body bags, the casualties from the attack on Avdrivka are so high that all hospitals are overflowing and the stock of body bags in Donetsk is insufficient."

The Ukrainians are running out of bodies to put in body bags...
I told you it was going to be bloody, and having small setbacks on an opening few days of a battle won't affect the long-term outcome of the war.
Russia has a population of 145 million people, if they were to fully mobilise you'd be looking at 30 to 40 million Russian men of fighting age, and the Ukrainians Nazi's have been given the flick so the West can go help the Jews...

How do you think that's going to go down...
The Ukrainians won't be blaming the Russians when this starts to really go pear-shaped for them, they'll blame the West.

Hey CM,
Go check out what I've written on the 'Netanyahu declares war' thread..
"It's likely that China realizes that Russia may not be the most reliable ally."
No, Russia and China are rock solid, their current relationship goes beyond a simple alliance.
They know who their real enemy is.

This is what I watched last night.
Long video but some great info.

NEOCONNED - PHONEY NARRATIVES AND IRRATIONAL PLANS IN UKRAINE AND ISRAEL
http://www.youtube.com/live/IVXze8g9xDc
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 8:10:53 AM
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