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That sinking feeling

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Britain has ‘run out of arms to send to Ukraine’
'We’ve given away all we can afford and other countries should step in, says senior military chief'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/02/britain-run-out-of-arms-send-to-ukraine-says-military-chief/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:10:43 PM
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Cheap drones rigged with explosives have become the leading anti-tank weapon against Russian forces, Ukrainian commander says
http://www.businessinsider.com/exploding-drones-leading-anti-tank-weapon-against-russia-ukraine-commander-2023-10

>>A deputy company commander in Ukraine's 80th Separate Assault Brigade told the Post that Russian troops use FPV drones the same way as Ukrainian soldiers but noted that it appears Moscow has more equipment.

"It's like a chess game," said the commander who goes by the call sign Swift. "They're winning it. Just in terms of quantity."<<
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 6:34:52 PM
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Dear Critic,

«How many people here strongly believe the USA and allies can beat China, Russia, Iran and North Korea all it once, on their home territory?»

Of the above, only China is a real threat, the others are just a nuisance.

This is not a question of "beating" anyone, but of not being beaten ourselves and we are not interested in their home territory anyway.

So yes, I strongly believe that with effort we can prevent them from beating us.

It could of course turn nuclear and we could end up all dead - but not beaten, and death is clearly preferable to being subjected to China's communist cultural-revolution and concentration camps.

But by winning in Ukraine there is a reasonable chance that we will not even have to die, because the Chinese are pretty clever and don't fancy being dead either, so watching Russia's defeat they can still avoid starting the war without losing face - that's why China sent Russia to war first so it can test the waters.

If however we fail to help our friends in their time of need, then nobody would help us either when our turn comes. Since Australia doesn't have nuclear capabilities, on its own it can easily be beaten.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 6 October 2023 12:06:11 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
You know in some ways this is the most sad and despicable part of the war Yuyutsu, that there is no chance of Ukraine taking back their territory, but that the war must go on with Ukrainians being used as cannon fodder, for no other good purpose except to 'deter China'.

The truth about Ukraine is that all we've actually done is make Russia that much stronger, as their military industry hasn't been resourced or on such a war footing in decades and their army now has more combat experience than any other - and pushed it closer to China, and in the process completely demilitarised the West by emptied all our weapons and ammunition stockpiles.

This article below is more for SM, and his 'meat wave attacks'
I told him ages ago time and time again the Russians will withdraw when necessary, lead the Ukrainians into a trap and rain hell down upon them with overwhelming artillery firepower, before taking the position back.

Russian Troops Cede Ground and Strike Back, Frustrating Ukraine’s Counteroffensive
http://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/03/world/europe/russia-ukraine-elastic-defense-counteroffensive.html
'Military analysts say that Russian commanders have been using a tactic known as “elastic defense” to prevent Ukraine from holding villages and other positions as staging grounds for future attacks.'

Isn't it funny how everything I say is labeled 'Russian propaganda', until eventually the western media comes out and says the same damn thing?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 October 2023 8:25:36 AM
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Drones Everywhere: How the Technological Revolution on Ukraine Battlefields Is Reshaping Modern Warfare
http://www.wsj.com/world/drones-everywhere-how-the-technological-revolution-on-ukraine-battlefields-is-reshaping-modern-warfare-bf5d531b

“Unfortunately, most of our offensive is now on foot,” said Lt. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov, the commander of HUR.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 October 2023 8:41:15 AM
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Dear Critic,

I am anything but a military expert, thus I will leave such questions as to who is winning, who is getting stronger and who is getting weaker for you and ShadowMinister to discuss, if you wish.

All I know is that one can recognise evil when they see it, and the atrocities carried out by Russia on Ukrainian civilians, including murder, torture, destruction, looting, rape and kidnapping of children, are certainly evil and must be opposed.

Same for the Chinese atrocities in Tibet and the Uighurs and in general the terrible oppression against their own population, which the same they now apply in Hong Kong and wish to do to the people of Taiwan, if they could, then subsequently to the people of Japan, the Philippines and Australia (which for them is just a great mining pit).

This we must oppose, even if it costs our lives: the specific strategies and tactics I leave for you and ShadowMinister to discuss.

Like you, I am also unhappy for having to have this crazy U.S.A. as our biggest ally in this war, but beggars cannot be choosers.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 6 October 2023 9:24:52 AM
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