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That sinking feeling

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Baldrick,

You mean the massacre of 51 civilians and children by Russians. Yup, another Russian war crime amongst 1000 others.

I see that the Russian navy and Air Force have bravely run away from Crimea after being smashed by Ukrainian missiles.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 8 October 2023 1:57:41 PM
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Baldrick, so you have to go back 15 years to find a single instance of the US accidentally hitting a civilian event, yet in Ukraine, there are hundreds of instances of Russia deliberately hitting civilian targets.

That is why Putin is a war criminal.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 8 October 2023 2:00:11 PM
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"Baldrick, so you have to go back 15 years to find a single instance of the US accidentally hitting a civilian event, yet in Ukraine, there are hundreds of instances of Russia deliberately hitting civilian targets."

No mate, that's just the poor quality of western air defense systems.
They end up hitting civilian areas, but Ukraine's got form for false flags anyway.
Haven't heard anything about the Patriots in a while, I'm guessing Russia blew them up months back.

- Move on, nothing to see here -

Maybe you need a few days off Charter Boat, all this 'hope and cope' seems to be getting too much for ya...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 8 October 2023 2:55:27 PM
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Baldrick,

Only morons believe that Ukraine started the war and pissant Putin fanboys pretend to. Russian tanks rolling into Ukraine is a giveaway.

How do I know the Russians fired the missile? Precisely because the Russians admitted it. The Russians claimed that it was a Nazi funeral with Nazis attending. Most of the victims were women, children, or pensioners with most of the bodies found in the children's playground next to the cafe making this yet another Russian atrocity and war crime.

As for the Patriot batteries (of which Russia has yet to destroy one) they are still effectively shooting down every Russian missile in range, and if you haven't heard about them in months, it is because you clearly only frequent pro-Russian news sites.

As for the Russian air defences, Russia is running out of S400 systems which have all been taken out by missiles that they didn't stop.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 9 October 2023 2:57:30 AM
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"Only morons believe that Ukraine started the war and pissant Putin fanboys pretend to. Russian tanks rolling into Ukraine is a giveaway."

And this is exactly the reason why wars are inevitable SM.

Because people like yourself (and with no thanks to the media);
- Refuse to be honest about the real causes of the conflict.
And you've proven that to be the case in regards to your stance on the Israel / Palestinian conflict.

As long as people refuse to demand the real truth in regards to the events that lead up to these conflicts, then war is inevitable.
- Better get used to it, you know the direction the world is headed.

And you know what else, 'selective outrage' is bs too.

100 people were killed by drone attack in Syria just a few weeks back (women and kids too) with over 250 injured, and no-one gave a shite about it.

Attack Israel and kill innocents there and everyone's outraged beyond belief.
- It's selective outrage, no more no less.

Some lives are obviously worth more than others.

I was disturbed by some of the shite I saw in Israel and you know what?
I didn't see a dead 'Israeli' or 'Palestinian' - NO.
I just saw dead human beings.

To finish though, if Russia admitted they launched the attack on that funeral then it was just as I said it was, there were military there.

But I'll tell you what, I saw pictures of dead middle aged women and elderly men from that attack, and it's no more or less sad and disturbing as the people who died in Israel over the last few days or the Syrians who were killed in Homs weeks earlier, (by US proxies the SDF no doubt)
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 6:45:23 PM
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I have a mate that supports the Ukrainian side.
We both have our points of view but we don't argue.
At least he can make a reasonable argument to base his point of view on.
He says that 'if Ukraine wants to join NATO, then that shouldn't be any business of Russia'.

- Simple and reasonable -

My response:
I said if this was just a war between Russia and Ukraine then his argument has validity and I'd be more inclined to support the Ukrainian position.
But I also said that if this is a war between the United States against Russia using Ukraine as it's proxy, then I'm more inclined to support the Russian position.

And even he seemed to accept my argument as also being simple and reasonable.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 6:56:15 PM
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