Thanks God that at least Pericles although has a different idea with me but is fair and can realise what other members comment here.
Thank you Pericles.

If you guys say your idea that Islam has violence or something like that IS NOT INSULT. You can say your idea. INSULTING means to use rude words and to swear, like what SCOTTY insulted Islam.

SCOTTY will be banned because has done something against the rules of this forum.

We expect the authority of this forum to investigate about his comment and make decision. We have reported the matter to the admin of forum and we will report it to higher Australian authority if the justice won't be done for SCOTTY.
You know better than me that there is freedom of speech in Australia but there is also a very STRONG LAW here.
We will not give up till justice to be done. If SCOTTY has sweared and insulted and break the rules of forum so he must be banned.

Philo and Graham
As I said , it is not fair to comment about a subject if we don't have knowledge. Philo says about stoning, you know why? because he has heard it from others, that is not enogh, that is not knowledge, Philo please go and research about Quran then comment about stoning, in whole Quran there IS NOT ANYTHING mentioned about STONING as punishment. After prophet Mohammad some Muslims try to add few things to the law, we only can consider Quran as 100% accountable and trustable source for Shariah Law, not any Hadith which its sure is from prophet or not.
lokks like I here comment that Juses in the Bible has said this and that(while he has not), so it is not fair, it will be accusing Christianity and accusing Jesus. So one more time I ask you guys PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT.
God bless all of us and guide us to the right way. Amen.

Pericles- said

someone doesn't come to the party pretty soon and give us a good example of a conflict between Australian and Sharia law, we might have to conclude that the topic is simply an excuse for a troll.

Pity, it could have been a useful thread.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 9:20:19 AM
PALE replies
There you go Pericles you have got your first example on this thread.
Perhaps you could demostrate what you feel would be a fair response.
Oz
Sorry been busy.

I will read the thread in the moring and post comment.
Blessings to all
x except Philo he he he

Sorry couldn`t resist

People Against Live Exports

I missed you :) lol where have you been? This thread needs your comment. Please read the comment of SCOTTY , that part that he has broken the rules of the forum.

I believe that the authorities of this site will be fair and they will not take SCOTTY's side just because SCOTTY is Non Muslim and the complaint maker is Muslim.

We expect anything that will be fair according to the rules of the forum, and according to the law.

The question is the meaning of insult. I am not talking about gratuitous insensitivity with the purpose of offending.

For Muslims, anything that criticizes Islam is insulting. Anything they don’t like is an insult.

If you say Mohammad was a wife-beater, it is an insult http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/004.smt.html#004.2127

If you say that he raided, plundered, enslaved and raped, it is an insult
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4321

If you say he brutally tortured, it is an insult (verse 261)
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html

Things I say are considered “insults” by Muslims. No, they are facts. I do not let them play word games.

The fact is that Muslims are never honest about Islam. Believe me, I know. It is easier for them to pretend than face the reality they fear. Blame others, always, they do.

The fact is that whereever Islam dominates, basic freedoms, equality and human rights are restricted. Non-Muslims, women, Jews, gays are second-class citizens or dead. This fact alone should be enough to make one suspicious of Islam and anything a Muslim says.

These are not “extreme examples”. Even if Mohammad committed only one rape or murder, well, guess what that means. Remember that for Muslims, Mohammad is the great moral example to emulate. Remember the accounts of hate, violence, murder, torture, lies, deceit, rape, enslavement he did, written in the hadiths. Do the math.

Turnright, stop making silly excuses for the inexcusable. Insist that Muslims live by the same moral standards we do. Insist that they apply these standards to their religion.

ALJAZEERA_OZ, I don’t think women are lower than dogs. Mohammad, however, said they are deficient in intelligence, most people in hell are women, that women are not worthy to lick the pus of men’s bodies. This may explain the status of women in Islamic societies. Maybe.

Muslims only reject the hadiths when it is convenient for them, usually when hearing things they don’t like. Otherwise they are the authentic traditions of their dear prophet. Do a search on Internet and see for yourself. This is just another excuse.

Notice the calls for censorship here. Once again we see why Islam never changes.

Kactuz

Oz

I have only come in now because I hear your upset.

For now just quickly lets talk about Scotty.

It would appear to me Scottys a pretty average counrty old school bloke.
The sort you wouldnt mind going fishing with or having a cold one at the local.
Hes picked up on something that has been said to us- by somebody refering to us as Infidels.
I will post you very soon and hopefuuly we can get back to the point.
Hes offended by this and rightfully so.
Hes protesting and feeling insulted.

You have to consider that people react to how they are treated.
[ As seen by yourself a few posts ago] because you felt insulted.

Now If I said to Scotty- Your as silly as a pork chop it would not offend him nearly as much as some Muslim people. Or your lower than a snakes belly.[ Oh now there`s a line why didnt I think of that before.][ Sorry off post Oz[personal]

We have a lot of expressions like every man and his dog turned up. meaning many people came]

BUT Oz. I tell you what. I reckon if you could calm down and post something explaining to Scotty why that might upset you that somebody might say Women are treated worse than a dog then we might all understand each other a bit better.
As you know most Aussies have dogs. They are part of the family.
So the expression about dogs in Austraia "isnt" the same Insult as it is in Islam
I want you to nicely think of something that would be bad if you said it about his family.
Put it to Scotty- Scotty did you know by saying that to me its the same as my saying @to you about your family?
Now depending of course on the bloke he might say- Gee buddy I never meant that.
Or He might say I dont give a rats Arse- Which is just another Aussie saying and again not meant personally.
For now peace and calm Ok
Blesssings to all.

It's pretty obvious now that this thread was initiated disingenuously, at best. If 'Aunti Anti Terrorism' and 'ALJAZEERA_OZ' are actually Muslim forum members, then it appears that they are playing games rather than trying to communicate.

If, as is looking more likely with every post, they are actually trolls attempting to incite the numerous Islamophobes that infest OLO, then they're doing a good job of it.

Personally, I've gicen this thread enough oxygen. I won't be back unless the purported Muslims answer the reasonable questions that have been put to them.