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Islamic Values or Australian Values? [ Australian Government's Concern ]

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Turnrightleft
I can assure you we work closely with Australian Muslim Leaders and they do not have a problem with respecting both Australia and Islamic faith.
You can see here
http://www.halakindmeats.com/
Please note they have chosen to put Australia before Islamic.
That has been the way for many years.

"The Australian Federation Of Islamic council and Councils"

Now as the official Muslim leaders of Australia have set an example
out of respect I see no reason to challange it.

It is in fact always good manners to put Australia before Anything.

Islamic Values or Australian Values on the title is in fact insulting.
It may not have been done for that purpose but good manners and repect are required.
Your comments to me are completly lacking thought or regard.

I would go so far as to say tat type of behavour does not require any encouragement.

All that from somebody I read is acclaiming to be a journalist advising pale on another thread.

Is this how they teach young journalist to write now is it?

I must say I am certainly glad pale did not a take you up on your very kind offer of re-organising the way pale runs posts and what it says.

I think Pale will stick to working with Muslim leaders who show respect for the country.

Dr Ali and the new Mufti and such.

I also think we may be somewhat more informed and qualified to make a judgement.

I know our Muslim friends would not mind us saying our grandfathers who fought to keep Australia- Australia would be appauled!
Perhaps you need to re vist a jourlisnt school that teaches some good old fashioned manners as it looks like you missed out in your life so far.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 14 September 2007 9:29:04 PM
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ALJAZEERA_OZ
Deal with the subjects posed! I made no comment about stoning that was your reactionary response to my honest question. "For instance what is the prescribed punishment for adultery under shari'ah?" No mention of a single stone.

You made no attempt to state the punishment for adultery, just your reaction. From your answer it is obvious you are extremely nervous about posting just what the Koran and shari'ah actually requires in such a case. The Jews stoned adulturous women under their law, of whom one Jesus saved from such stoning. No mention of how the male companions were treated. Of course under shari'ah a womans witness is only half that of a man. That is how shari'ah operates. Even in Australia today we have shame killings by Muslims on women carried out illegaly in the name of Allah. Islam is a primitive culture dating back to 2,000 BC. and in the hands of some races and cultures is violent in its enforcement of shari'ah law - hence the Taliban. No one applies shari'ah more accurately than the Taliban - Lopping off the heads of infidels and dissenters.
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 15 September 2007 6:52:55 AM
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In Australias Muslim authorities eyes - women are the most evil of creatures like uncovered meat in the street. They must be made cover up completely otherwise good Muslim men will assume they are prostitutes for sexual pleasure. Under shari'ah these women are sex slaves and can be treates as one pleases. Hence the use of women without consent for sexual pleasure and all this condoned under shari'ah. Women have no legal status if considered a sex slave. Islam cannot cope with western women, who are equal and free under western laws to dress as they please, without intimidation from the lustful eyes of men.
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 15 September 2007 7:07:21 AM
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Where are the defenders of shari'ah?

They know very well how the leaders of the Islamic community in Australia despise Western culture, laws and education. They want to change our free society that allows individual choice and burden us all with shari'ah so as to control our minds, freedoms and behaviours.

There are nations in the world that apply shari'ah - if it is so good then those that espouse its virtues ought to live under it and allow us who prefer freedom to have our culture and laws. You see they cannot let us be free it might ruin their case for the virtues of shari'ah.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 16 September 2007 7:34:53 AM
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Philo

How dare "YOU" speak for the Australian Muslim Authorities!

Just because one person said something that was taken out of all context and blown up by our ever helpful media.
These people cant win no matter what they do.

Many people say many things and I have heard more bigoted stuff coming out of the mouths so some so the Christian Leaders.
Also didn’t the Christian’s burn women and people at the stake back in those days?
I also would point out to you that at least some of the Muslim leaders have had the compassion to speak out about the cruelty of live animal exports.

Now I know YOU’RE not interested in animal’s cruelty because we had that out over a year ago.

A Secret in the last few years among some of our meetings I wrote to the heads of the Muslim Leaders.
It was a complaint about dress standards at meetings regarding wives or females.
Very low cut tops [very] and short shorts.
It was embarrassing to me at the time because it was a formal meeting and like the rest of us we wanted to impress the other side being mostly a room full of lawyers.

When I look back now I am sorry I complained because in hindsight the lady was
A Just being her self
B possibly even dressed so casually in an attempt to show she was supporting us an integrated.
It was probably in her and her husband’s eyes a way of showing they are Aussies and Muslims.
So if you ever reading this guys- Sorry.
We also have a new Mufti of Australia. He’s a nice easy going Aussie who happens s to follow Muslim Faith.

Sure there are probably a few nutters here that are Muslim Philo and if I had my way I would send any trouble makers back.

Speaking of religious bigoted nutters where do I send you?
Off you go now Philo back to your threads on abortion or something to do with female bodily parts or little kids where you normally hang.
Oz ignore him
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 16 September 2007 9:06:04 AM
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People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming,

Who receives all the live exports of sheep? Are they Christian? Are they infidels? Are they Muslim? Please identify what the live exports are used for! If they are mostly used for Muslim religious practises then I suggest PALE you have ben deceived. One young man married to a cousin of mine was for a few years a buyer for Elders for the sheep export trade to the Middle East. When he witnessed the cruelty done to the sheep he left the employ of Elders. He is now a Christian pastor.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 16 September 2007 8:56:19 PM
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