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Putin Talks of Negotiation over Ukraine,

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What did the evil chicken lay?

Deviled eggs.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:34:44 AM
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Hi AC,

Bakhmut has some strategic advantage for Russia if taken, but Kreminna is of far more importance as it would cut a major supply route for Russia. In any event Russia is having significant supply problems on a reduced front. Heavy equipment gets blown up with attempted advances, the wall of fire tactic of the Russian army has had limited effect, wasted precious ammunition, and has incurred significant wear and tear on the artillery. The human wave attacks of the Russians have wiped out many thousands of soldiers for little or no gain.

I suspect that the Ukrainian army will avoid frontal assaults in the short term if possible, opting instead to target supply lines and concentrations of troops, equipment and ammunition with their accurate weaponry. Better to use the weather to their advantage, and the frozen ground may allow a further counteroffensive against cold and demoralised troops deprived of supplies.

http://www.kyivpost.com/post/6158
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:37:16 AM
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Hi Foxy,

"Although China is being out-spoken in its criticism of nations that threaten with nuclear weapons Russia needs to beware."

- Russia has simply reiterated the terms of it's own nuclear doctrine.

Also on that note, did you know that the US has itself changed the terms of it's own nuclear doctrine?

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons

>>Senior U.S. officials said that Biden has decided not to follow through on his 2020 pledge to declare that the sole purpose of nuclear weapons is to deter a nuclear attack against the United States or its allies. Instead, he approved a version of a policy from the Obama administration that leaves open the option to use nuclear weapons not only in retaliation to a nuclear attack, but also to respond to non-nuclear threats.

Biden’s policy declares that the “fundamental role” of the U.S. nuclear arsenal is to deter a nuclear attack, but will still leave open the option that nuclear weapons could be used in “extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the United States or its allies and partners,” officials told ACT.<<

U.S. Colonel Training Zelensky Forces Accuses Soldiers of War 'Atrocities'
http://www.newsweek.com/us-colonel-training-zelensky-forces-accuses-soldiers-war-atrocities-1769784

>>After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
Ukraine is a "corrupt, f*ed-up society" run by "f*-up people"
Ukrainian soldiers "kill dudes who surrendered," commit "atrocities"<<

'Projection' is 'when you accuse others of what you're doing'.

Ukraine is also committing war crimes and Russia too is documenting them.
The loser of the war faces Nuremberg 2.0
U.S. Colonel Training Zelensky Forces Accuses Soldiers of War 'Atrocities'
http://www.newsweek.com/us-colonel-training-zelensky-forces-accuses-soldiers-war-atrocities-1769784

>>After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
Ukraine is a "corrupt, f*ed-up society" run by "f*-up people"
Ukrainian soldiers "kill dudes who surrendered," commit "atrocities"<<
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:40:10 AM
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Hi everyone,
Sorry about doubling up on some content in the previous post.
I may now be just about all out of comments until later or possibly tomorrow,
- So if anyone replies to my comments I won't be able to respond on this thread for a while.

Hope everyone had a enjoyable NYE.
Happy New Year 2023
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:47:31 AM
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Hi Fester,
"The human wave attacks of the Russians have wiped out many thousands of soldiers for little or no gain."
This information is coming from a Ukrainian source and is unreliable.
Watch a bit of this, I'm only 15 mins in and it's discussed.
Skip to 13mins to hear what Ukrainian govt. themselves are saying

Russia Missile Strikes, Ukraine Admits Heavy Losses, Turkey Mulls Syria Pullout, Xi Putin Friendship
http://youtu.be/WZlO8TFcbok

If you watch this one (about 20mins in total)
They talk about the fact that if Ukraine refuses to negotiate, then negotiation will become that much harder as time passes.

Lavrov scolds G7 leaders, Putin's speech signals the end of neoliberal world order
http://youtu.be/pPcX4vep_Lo

Now Lavrov has issued an ultimatum.
Russia’s Lavrov issues ultimatum to Ukraine
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-lavrov-ukraine-ultimatum-army-territory-b2252042.html

No matter what the Ukrainian or Western sourced media is saying, the information I'm getting tells a different story;
- And that is, the situation for Ukraine is not good at all.

Also I said earlier that I'd try to dig up the info on Russia combat strength.
All I know in regard to the Ukrainian side is that combat capable forces are quoted to be around 190K

Wheres on the Russian side it's this:

"The coming offensive phase of the conflict will provide a glimpse of the new Russian force that is emerging and its future capabilities. At this writing, 540,000 Russian combat forces are assembled in Southern Ukraine, Western Russia, and Belarus. The numbers continue to grow, but the numbers already include 1,000 rocket artillery systems, thousands of tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones, plus 5,000 armored fighting vehicles, including at least 1,500 tanks, hundreds of manned fixed-wing attack aircraft, helicopters, and bombers. This new force has little in common with the Russian army that intervened 9 months ago on February 24, 2022."
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/washingtons-carthaginian-peace-collides-with-reality

This might be comment 8 today, so that's all for me until tomorrow.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 1 January 2023 11:44:37 AM
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AC,

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it will still be a pig.

As the saying goes, if you are not winning you a losing. I pay careful attention to the details, and what I hear matches closely with what is happening on the ground the Russian routs in Kherson and Kharkiv were not strategic retreats. The many tanks APVs and tons of ammo captured by Ukraine made Russia the largest donor of military equipment to Ukraine.

The minuscule gains by Russia towards Bakhmut with massive Russian losses are dwarfed by the Ukrainian gains towards Kreminna and Svatove. If Kremina is captured, it will cut off a major supply route to Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk and even Bakhmut.

The Russian economy is tanking with the oil price dropping, the price cap and the EU embargo on oil and gas, Russia's revenues are drying up fast and its expenses are skyrocketing.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 1 January 2023 11:49:28 AM
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