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Putin Talks of Negotiation over Ukraine,
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 8:38:20 PM
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Political commentators have made it quite clear that
Russia will not abandon its quest to control Ukraine. They tell us that it's been planned for years, at least since the 2014 annexation of Crimea and we're told that Russia can maintain the offensive indefinitely. It's been pointed out that - since the 13th century Russia has experienced more years of war than peace. That this generation has fought in Chechnya for 11 years and won. They fought in the North Caucasus for 9 years and won. They fought for 17 years in Angola and 11 in Afghanistan. We're told that - the Russians are proud of their victories against Napoleon in 1812, against Germany in WWII and against the US and her allies in Vietnam. That they believe that they prevailed in Afghanistan, Georgia and Crimea. That they are confident of another win. We all acknowledge that the Ukrainians certainly have been courageous and shown great resolve and they have had moral support of most of the free world as well as significant military aid but they have a puny air-force, a small navy and a population of just 43.6 million from which to draw combatants compared to Russia's 146 million. Ultimately who do you think will win? That is the million dollar question. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:30:05 AM
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Zelensky's 10 Point Peace Plan.
http://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/the-10-point-peace-plan-for-ukraine-proposed-by-zelensky It's absurd. Completely at odds with the realities on the ground. Russia will never agree to this. Zelensky's days as President are numbered. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:30:24 AM
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Both sides are now prosecuting the war with a view
to being in the strongest possible diplomatic position when peace is negotiated. Zelensky is trying to end the war justly and on the basis of the United Nations Chsrter and International Law. Zelensky is convinced that now is the time when the Russian destructive war must be stopped. He's presenting reasonable solutions trying to offer peace, prosperity, and human freedoms. He's frustrated by the weight of bad circumstances that have been built up and he is not forced to try to do the impossible. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 9:57:51 AM
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I apologize for all the typos - but I trust you'll
get the gist of what's being said. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 10:00:04 AM
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Zelensky is now trying to do the impossible.
We should all support him. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 10:01:31 AM
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Why would I waste my time talking to that guy..
Been there done that, I made my arguments and I moved on.
Your religious right Yuyutsu?
Once Judaism now what - Hindu or Buddhist? (Sorry if I got that wrong)
Didn't the Soviets wipe out (or attempt to wipe out) just about every trace of religion in USSR?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
Yet the Russian people have gone back to their Christian roots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia
That's about as different as you and me...
So what makes you think they're essentially the same people?
- Or that the USSR ever really represented the true Russian people?
I think it's a mistake to conflate the USSR with Russia.
- And after all, socialism came from the west.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism
Who funded the Bolshevik Revolution? Jews.
http://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=read&author=allen&book=none&story=bankroll
(Note Carroll Quigley - Tragedy and Hope)
http://www.amazon.com.au/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X
Here's what I just watched:
SCOTT RITTER ON RUSSIA EXPANDING THE MILITARY AND, THE VICTORY THAT IS MORE THAN JUST OVER UKRAINE.
http://youtu.be/wqxFiy7-PaU
- It's a fairly long video, but it provides a lot of insight into how this war and the aftermath of which (peace) is likely to play out.
I've been following this war for the last 305 days.
I watch an hour or more of stuff related to the conflict in Ukraine pretty much every single day.
Who funded Zelensky's rise to fame. Ihor Kolomoisky.
Is This Man the Most Powerful Jew in the World?
http://tinyurl.com/5n8cs66h
Zelensky, Hunter Biden — and Their Sugar Daddy, Kolomoisky
http://youtu.be/fUPKZkqXfZI