Ref. stolen guns and firearms owners arranging with criminals to have their guns stolen, where are the references to successful prosecutions?
Or is this merely conjecture?

On cancelling licencing, how about liquor licences,?
Alcohol is involved in more murders than guns (ABS figures) so cancelling all licences would not only reduce the murder rate but also the incidence of road trauma.

“ Two teenage boys have been charged with murder and attempted murder after a woman was killed at her home in north Brisbane on Boxing Day.

Emma Lovell, 41, was fatally stabbed in the chest after allegedly disturbing the offenders inside her North Lakes home at about 11.30pm on Monday night, police said.

Her husband Lee Lovell, 43, was stabbed in the back.‘
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-27/woman-killed-in-home-invasion-at-north-lakes/101809984

I knew that there was some reason why some people want some means of self defence.

But, hey, putting criminals in danger is a no-no., especially when they are out on bail.

Hmm I wonder if those kids were smacked and treated badly by their parents growing up.
- Chances are they probably were, and they'll work the system by using it as a defense come court day.
And the government support workers will scream about these kids horrible upbringing, and they'll get a slap on the wrist after going to juvey and bragging about their crimes which will give them street cred and reputation amongst all the other screwed up kids.
- And they'll be back out on the streets to rob and harm more innocent members of society all over again.

Probably only wanted money and cigarettes...
I spose we should be grateful they weren't armed, or we'd have 2 people dead.

- Move on, nothing to see here -

G'day Issy,

Lots of deflection there. Please explain why 7% of gun owners have firearms stolen, at an average of 3 guns per theft. Research by Deakin University shows that the use of "cleanskins" ( gun licensed people with no criminal record) being used by criminals to stage fake thefts of guns, where the "cleanskin" is paid 5 or 6 times the legal market value of the gun.

As for "self defence" with tens of thousands of ordinary citizens being armed, up to 97% of the population, note I'm not saying law abiding citizens only, as I've shown non-law abiding can be licensed to own a guns as well. For every criminal foiled by an armed citizen, there would be dozens of innocents shot, including family, friends, neighbours, strangers and the gun owners themselves. A Dodge City solution, to a problem. That one you got straight from the foreign masters North American NRA.

Who said anything about home owners or other innocents being armed with guns?
Seems that you have some strange fixation about guns.
It is an offence in Australia to keep/possess anything for the purpose of self defence.

The citizens have a right to defend themselves recognized by law the same Law that denies them the keeping of anything for the purpose.

It’s OK to keep oven spray in the kitchen but a can in the bedroom is a criminal offence.

Greens and GCA are happy with innocent people being murdered in their own homes so long as the criminals are not endangered.

"Research by Deakin University shows that the use of "cleanskins" ( gun licensed people with no criminal record) being used by criminals to stage fake thefts of guns, where the "cleanskin" is paid 5 or 6 times the legal market value of the gun."

That's fairly believable.
But how widespead it actually is, the real thefts from the staged ones, who knows.

"As for 'self defence' with tens of thousands of ordinary citizens being armed, up to 97% of the population..."

97% ? - That's ridiculous. (completely unbelieveable)

9.7 citizens out of 10 own firearms...
- come on, that's not true and you know it.

- Just trying to keep it real here...