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There Is An Epidemic Of Gun Crime In Australia

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In my opinion we can't tighten-up the F/As laws any more than they are now. Having worked in licensing myself most shooters abide with the existing F/A laws, and any further restrictions might only serve to drive the many lawful license holders underground.

It should be pointed out many police are recreational shooters themselves. And they, like all applicant(s), are required to jump through the hoops as it were like any other ordinary citizen. There's an old mantra in policing - to aid the introduction of tougher laws (irrespective of what those laws might be), you 'must' take the public along for the ride - In other words you need the public's cooperation. You simply can't browbeat the public into submission or you'll lose all semblance of public co-operation. After all, it's the public themselves who first draw police attention to a crime (the complainant), not the other way round.

Essentially police are more reactive than proactive. And on the occasion they are proactive it's generally comes from intel. emanating from a public source. In my experience this applies to all crimes. Without public cooperation, the police are essentially ineffectual.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 4:06:47 PM
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Get with the times.
Paul1405,
Tell that to those Qld Police Officers !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 5:43:41 PM
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A reference or two would help, will somebody give Paul one?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 6:06:50 PM
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It's the mentality leading to criminal behaviour in general not just incidents involving firearms that is the real concern.
Young kids are brainwashed by incompetent & immature educators that they can literally do as they please because even their parents are prevented by Law from dishing out discipline when it is clearly the only option.
The very same woman who showed us that video yesterday also told us that her own daughter got a DV out against her mother when she smacked her daughter for smashing the TV, the toilet seat & punching holes into the hallway walls.
Social Services latched onto the fact that Mum has a beer after work & recorded the mother for "drinking" & the daughter is exploiting her new powers to no end.
The bureaudroids in Social Services, the Judiciary etc really need to be appraised by normal people not by their their just as goofy & out-of-touch & socially inept peers !
Only then & after a term in National Service will this sickening mentality become less prevalent & curbed.
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 6:07:08 PM
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Stealing guns is not gun crime. It might be part of a stealing "epidemic", but it's not a gun crime epidemic.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 7:01:37 PM
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http://www.aic.gov.au/publications
Australian Institute of Criminology.

“In 2018 there were 847 reported incidents of firearm theft in which 2,425 firearms were stolen. This represents a 15 percent increase in incidents and a 35 percent increase in stolen firearms since 2008–09. Most thefts targeted residential premises with an average of three firearms stolen in each incident. The largest proportion of thefts occurred in regional parts of Australia, indicating a shift from major cities as the primary site of theft incidents. The majority of stolen firearms were in firearm safes at the time of the theft.”

Note that firearm thefts went up after the Greens revealed the localities in which there were the modt firearms.
This was either a cynical and potentially dangerous exercise or a deliberate way to help the criminal element.

Knife crime is far more prevalent in Australia than gun crime yet there are no calls to ban knives.
What Australia really needs is uniform firearms laws, not State by State variations.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 7:28:16 PM
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