Southener, your comparisons with Hitler are specious. Hitler killed 6 million jews, something the Iranians deny ever happened by the way.

I think it is more likely than not that Haneef was, in some way, associated with terrorists. However, I don't want to kill Haneef, I just don't believe he has a right to live and work in Australia. So we merely sent Haneef home to his birth place. As consequences go, I think that this was relatively benign act. Especially considering punishments handed out to people in Islamic countries.

Izzo

Can't speak for Andrew Boe. I don't know him. My post was just an interpretation of what I believe his ending comments meant. I was responding to a previous poster.

However, I HAVE lived in a country where people had ‘no basic human rights and the government ruled with an iron-fist’.

For me, Australia is slowly evolving into the country I use to live in. It’s an eery experience of daja vu..

You and I will continue to enjoy safety and prosperity, as I did in the country I once lived in. That’s because I live with the privileged position of being a white, Anglo, middle-class citizen. But I’m seeing that the perceived ‘others’ don’t seem to enjoy the basic human rights that the *right* Australians do. Especially to participate in activities like posting on forums such as this, without being spied on, having your posts purposely misconstrued to construct 'evidence', being dragged from your home and family, demonised as a terrorist, having your profession and income robbed from you etc....

Meg1

I believe that Muslims are experiencing a real threat of national insecurity. They are not experiencing the basic human rights ‘we’ enjoy. The women in particular, who can not even walk down the street or catch a bus (particularly during times of media frenzy on yet another Muslim ‘terrorist’) without being harassed, both verbally and unfortunately physically at times

Paul L

What has happened to Haneef is not benign because his career and future earning potential has been robbed from him. His country of origin has also been denied a future skilled surgeon, which they so badly need.

Indian doctors gain surgical experience and skills from Western countries, and take it back to India. He will never gain a residency position in another Western hospital, let alone a working visa in a first world country again. There are far-reaching ramifications.

Whether we believe in his innocence or not is irrelevant. Whether the actions of the Australian Governement is seemingly benign compared to Iran or where ever because they execute people there is also irrelevant. These actions by the Government are not benign in the context of Australian democratic processes.

An executive power, misusing their position to create laws, not agreed to by Australian voters, allowing themselves to go above the law, is not a benign action.

We better watch ourselves or we'll end up getting sanctioned like some autocratic countries, in whose foot prints we appear to be following.

Runawake’s post proves anyone can post on OLO…and democracy in Australia’s still preferable to living in any leftist regime in the world today.

RE: Runawake’s-RED-HERRINGS…reality check!…people-ARE-DIFFERENT! That’s fine by me, until they try to cut someone’s head off and film it for fun…or try to justify their sadism…or bomb innocents ANYWHERE! People’s-DIFFERENCES-aren’t-the-issue…people’s barbarism IS!

My comment wasn’t, “Leave!”…but if life’s so oppressive here…then-live-in-your-own-Nirvana-and-see-what-reality-there-is-like…I repeat the invitation…you’d probably last a week...and-home-would-look-soooo-good!

Horus’ re-vamped version of Pastor Niemoller’s famous “First They Came…” is the best response to your post…read-it-s-l-o-w-l-y…Liz too…RE: Islamic-lack-of-freedoms-especially-women-that’s-my-POINT! …also-PARLIAMENTS-make-LAWS-that’s-what-they-ARE-VOTED-IN-To-Do!

Ozzie’s question about relationship-to-terrorists is valid…I can say with certainty that my rellies aren’t building bombs right now…can’t you? I’ll bet the non-leftists can all concur with his observation also.

Ozzie, I’ve an acquaintance who’s of Indian ancestry and travels to India as a specialist doctor to treat poor Indians - free (and train medical staff). They sit for days in queues to see doctors...treatment of poor Indians or women by their fellow wealthy ‘upper classes’ or their own husbands , is worse than they treat their animals. Dr Haneef’s sudden interest in his wife or baby hasn’t impressed me, based on his previous lack-of-interest in her impending delivery, until his incarceration. As for her caesarean?...well, the reason baby was delivered then and in that manner is anyone’s guess…

Liz……Haneef-CAN-practice-in-India-NOW! He-was-‘practicing’-in-a-Queensland-hospital-until-his-incarceration…any-job-related-problems-should-be-laid-at-his-terrorist-rellie’s-feet-and-his-own!

I’d like to see all the bleeding heart Haneef supporters be first to line for treatment by Haneef should we have the misfortune to suffer his return…they’ll be sipping port in some government-funded-closeted-community, with-a-specially-designated-doctor-of-the-right-faction-at-their-disposal.

Paul.L and ozzie have answered southerner admirably, I concur with their statements and agree, I-wouldn’t-like-it…but-I-wouldn’t-blame-the-government-or-the-country…I’d-be-pretty-furious-with-my-non-existent-rellies-for-messing-up-my-job-opportunities-or-holiday…there’s the difference!

…as for ‘killing’ anyone…never let the truth get in the way of a leftist conspiracy story…he was sent home, probably first class at that…who ‘killed’ anyone? …Oh that’s right, his cousin and his mates did, with bombs…hmmm, God spare us from your line of ‘reasoning’ southerner…remember, if you were picked up by one of his cousins, the punishment might be beheading, slowly and while being filmed to send proof to your family…nothing to be afraid of, huh?

Meg1 the only person to die was one of the cousins so what are you dribbling on about?

Now for some facts.
1. Dr Haneef was never wanted by the British and the AFP knew that 39 hours before they staged the big arrest at the airport, they had no reason to do so.
2. They interrogated him for hours, he got very little sleep or food and then ignored him for 11 more days.
3. They then spent those 11 days giving information they knew to be false to the media.
4. After all that they charged him having known for 14 days that he was innocent.
5. They lied in the courts using a story they made up and knew never to have been true.
6. After the barrister released the transcripts it was clear that far from fleeing he was a on a pre-arranged holiday to see his sick baby girl, he had tried to ring the police 4 times in Britain - he had not broken any Australian law and they were his distant cousins.
7. Mick Keelty has a long history of bad decisions and utter incompetence going back many years.

The ongoing degradation of our'democracy' and abuses of our rights by our politicians must be giving huge comfort to the terrorists.