Rather silly contemplating Haneef’s “return to Australia” now that his own government is interested in him for possible links to Al Qaeda, and we are still interested in him, not to mention his suspicious email exchanges with a relative.

How has the Haneef case shown that “this (the war on terror) must be balanced with individual rights and fundamental principles of justice to ensure that Australia remains a civilised, principled society.” Or, rather, who says that they Haneef case was not handled in this way? The man was dealt with legally and humanely. He was released because of lack of evidence, but his 457 visa was cancelled, wisely, because the Australian Government is not satisfied that he is a person of good character and, now apparently, neither is the Indian government.

Andrew Boe seems to be overlooking facts to carry on with the campaign against law and order in Australia, and the Government’s attempts to protect the country and population.

How on earth can anyone, even the loony left white ants, think that Haneef can be allowed to return to Australia after being under suspicion of terrorist activities? He has lost nothing. He is not Australian. He has no moral right to be here; nor has he any legal right to be here if the Australian Government decides that he hasn’t. Even if he is totally innocent (and the doubt of that increases daily), Haneef is insignificant against the security and safety of Australians.

Haneef is now India’s problem. Get over him

I would have thought that the Haneef case is a prime example of trial by media and activist lawyers over the right of the government of the nation to protect its citizens from harm.

I think there is an argument that our government representatives did not handle the pressure from the media and the activist lawyer on Haneef's behalf well. This is understandable when issues, wars etcetera can be won or lost by mass media propaganda not backed by any proven truth.

Public opinion is the terrorist's weapon against us in this environment.

The sooner we in the west recognise Islam as a political totalitarian ideology protecting itself within the spiritual and it is waging a war on us, a 4th generation war, that we are not prepared for within our legal and defence framework, the better it will be for all. Then we can frame the debate and reaction to meet the threat as it is.

Good riddance to Haneef; I only hope that now foreign muslim doctors are rejected for entry here (don't care what the reason is, just keep them out).

Our system of government has been the real loser. How can anyone respect parliament when the PM and senior ministers put politics ahead of principles? Do we agree that the end justifies the means?

As for the author's claim that "Haneef is now cleared of any involvement in terrorism", I don't get that impression, rather that there was insufficient evidence. If innocent, that is a bit unfair to Haneef.

My other concern from this affair is the usual lack of ethics of our media. There were reports of initial offers of $150 000 for Haneef for an interview and doubtless there will be more to come. The media makes news and buys news, so no wonder the TV news and current affairs shows have zero credibility.

Not so long ago when Mr Howard and his knucklemen (a non-gender term) were indulging in the Liberals' favourite sport of ABC knocking, we were told that the 'marketplace' would deliver copious quantities of quality TV - all through the marvel that is commercial television. So OK Mr Howard, after being inundated with reality TV, advertisements 24/7 and bought and staged interviews, just how much credibility do you reckon you are due?

This Secrecy Business is an illness. Let's get to the seat of the infection, rather than try to treat the symptoms.

Firstly, I have NEVER seen any actual factual, forensic evidence for the organism known as Al Qaeda. If such an organism were to exist at all, it could only thrive in the petri dish of secrecy. It would be nourished by secrecy. Why? Because the simple truth is a sterile environment. Truth is a disinfectant.

And secrecy is a BUSINESS. It is a cheap trick. It provides employment for those who have no utilitarian abilities whatsoever. Just make it up as you go.

These New Age guys actually fantasize that they can know in advance what people are thinking. They look for signs and portents in the entrails of our everyday lives. They stare into the tea-leaves of old e-mails like demented astrologers. This is how witch-doctors have always traditionally worked.

I am tired of being treated like a ignorant savage. Go wave your bone somewhere else. Better still, get a job!

Go make the world a better place for a change. Go get some dirt under your useless fingernails.

You could begin by announcing what everybody knows - that the only true terrorists abroad today are the Bush Administration, together with their pimps around the world, not the least of which are their Australian sycophants.

FORGET APEC SECURITY HOUND HANEEF

Its not the terror laws that are at fault its their POLITICAL IMPLIMENTATION. Justice shouldn’t be driven by the Government's electoral needs.

Why is the Government still shafting Haneef?

Does it have a continuing political need?

Haneef is no longer under Australian jurisdiction. They let him go for lack of evidence – why keep on spending (say) $10,000+ a day on what has only been remotely a UK case?

Seizing on Haneef for the election has stressed out the AFP. Keelty, in the same interview yesterday said Haneefs former SIM card was in two places at once? Both of which were wrong:

".. the SIM card is still in the vicinity of London at the time that the devices were attempted to be exploded,...The SIM card is still at Glasgow, at the airport, at the time that the attempted bombing happened there." http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22175066-601,00.html

The SIM card was found in Liverpool.

On this basis of sound fact checking nail em up I say (in time for the election) just in case, aye fellas?

Watching SBS news it currently appears the Government is basing the case against Haneef on what Indian detectives say and/or an elusive money trail. This is after the AFP (and other Australian government bodies) have been talking to India for over 3 weeks.

Have the Indian's just discovered new evidence about the man the Australian justice system and executive just released?

The UK Australian sensitivities (that Andrews claimed were huge) must be huge because the Brits weren't even interested in extraditing him back to the UK.

But the T word was mentioned. He is brown and Muslim so that is sufficient for the Government.

After Cry Wolf the AFP is demoralised, Keelty exhausted but they all need to be tiptop because and APEC is in several weeks.

100,000s of Government man hours that could have gone into pre APEC security have clearly been diverted for political reasons.

Pete

Chris Shaw I'm not sure if you're really serious, are you? No-Al-Qaeda? They-take-'credit'-for-terrorist-activities...they-don't-wait-to-be-'attributed-blame'. Ignoring your anti-Bush sentiments, and I'm not in the Bush-fan-club,we need to be really afraid of what you've dangerously demonstrated...fools or political-hacks who are so blinded by political bias, they refuse-to-see-the-wood-for-the-trees.

Haneef is either a-moron-or-a-terrorist...he set himself up as a suspect on many counts.

If his wife was due to have a baby (remembering that he's a 'doctor'), why wasn't she delivering-in-AUSTRALIA, at the hospital he worked at? He wasn't here for a weekend, after all! ...Or why wasn't he with her, as his duty to his job obviously meant little judging by his quick decision to fly out without notice...

Wouldn't you think that she'd want her husband, the medico, to share the birth? Wake up and smell the wood rot!

If I was an innocent Haneef and left the country, I think that I would:
(a) remove perishables from the refrigerator.
(b) take the washing off the line.
(c) let my employers know where I was going and for how long.
(d) BOOK A RETURN TICKET!
(e) Not be in possession of an e-mail that advised me to get out fast or that suggested that no one was on to me yet.
(f) Not have given my 'sim' card to anyone else, let alone a suspected terrorist or anyone in another country!
(g) Not have so many associates who were known or associates of terrorists.
(h) ...have booked the ticket as soon as wifey was in labour if I seriously wanted any credibility regarding that as the reason for going...and anyway she would have been in Australia, delivering at the hospital I worked in, with a specialist assisting...if I seriously felt the sentiments about Australia that he is now espousing about living here...here was the perfect opportunity - baby would have been Australian!

I'ts far easier to be a 'bleeding heart' from a distance than a bleeding body lying victim to a terrorist bomb...or the poor security forces who are trying to protect you from your own stupidity, Chris!