The position of the USA in the last few weeks vis-a-vis Lebanon is evidence of an administration that is out-of-touch and increasingly irrelevant.

Such a policy is, in my view, self-defeating in terms of supporting Israel internationally, especially given the backlash that has occured because of this position.

Yet, as I perceive it, there is no issue in Jews lobbying, quite successfully, for an issue they feel very passionately about.

The author fails to recognise why Israel is very precious to most Jews. For most Jews, history is the record and proof. If it is criticised, and held accountable, as it is, then there is a view that the country's viability is threatened and thus most Jews feel personally threatened.

Thus, most Jews will support the work of the "Israel Lobby", even though most do not support the current Administration.

Fleurette's last post sounds like he/she wouldn't say no to a "final solution" of the Jewish problem being delivered by the medieval mullahs of Tehran. But to trust the benevolence of a regime that hangs 16 year-old girls for "crimes against chastity", is an indication of grand stupidity.

Posted by EnerGee, Wednesday, 9 August 2006 10:07:44 AM

That comment is laughable. If Israel is so selfish in it's quest for land and power that it is willing to sacrifice its own people in the process then who am I to mourn it's defeat?

Stop using over the top sensationalist language. Once again you cannot refute the real issue here and can only rely on drawing parallels with an irrelevant past and pointing the finger of blame at anyone else besides Israel. Hey it helps if they're Muslim and or/Arab but hey, those nasty Persians should do the trick!

Anything that happens to Israel from here on is it's own doing. I do feel for the people within those borders, particularly the Arab Israelis for the hardships they face everyday but also for the Jews and the Christians. No one deserves to be brainwashed into thinking their entire policy is self defence and that they are surrounded by Islamic fanaticals, only to realise at the very last second that it was all one big Zionist sham. It's unfair really. But don't blame me. Blame the government.

And more importantly the rest of the world agrees with us. Maybe they'll even come to our aid. So long as we have journalists like this:

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/23157/Things_Americans_Won_t_See_On_The_News

Yes I agree with fleurette, the blind support for Israel's war in America is due to a strong pro-zionist bias in most of their media. There are, however, americans thet are standing up for the truth and realizing that Israel has betrayed - and even attacked!- the US several times. This radio show does a great job in researching and exposing zionist crimes and deception in the US, the middle east and the world: www.iamthewitness.com

Daniel06,

You asked me: "How is saying that Moslems are taking over Europe and the world any less racist than people saying the Jews control the world?"

- quite simply, the former is true while the later is false.
For Islam, conquering the world is a religious tenet, while Judaism has nothing parallel.

You continue to mention "Israels murder of inocent civilians", while no such murder ever occured (as I explained in http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=4741#50521 ).

Just like you I hope for peace, but I am not deluded to believe that peace between Israel and Iran and its proxies will ever be possible. With Lebanon - yes, with the Palestinians - perhaps, they are mostly rational people, but not with insane Iran.

Finally, if need be, I'd rather be racist than dead.

Whatever we think of Israel's assault on Lebanon, all of us seem to agree about one fact: that it was a response, however disproportionate, to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah. I repeated this "fact" in my last column, when I wrote that "Hizbullah fired the first shots". This being so, the Israeli government's supporters ask peaceniks like me, what would you have done? It's an important question. But its premise, I have now discovered, is flawed.

Since Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon in May 2000, there have been hundreds of violations of the "blue line" between the two countries. The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) reports that Israeli aircraft crossed the line "on an almost daily basis" between 2001 and 2003, and "persistently" until 2006. These incursions "caused great concern to the civilian population, particularly low-altitude flights that break the sound barrier over populated areas". On some occasions, Hizbullah tried to shoot them down with anti-aircraft guns."

Fancy living with this then 2 bob and co? Who gave Israel the right to treat the region like a plaything torturing and tormenting everyone? This is what they do to the Palestinians as well.

It is outrageous that anyone on earth should support this from any country, especially a nation that the west created to salve their own guilt for the murder of 6 million Jews. Is that what we intended when Israel was set up? So that Israel can be murdering, terrorist thugs killing and maiming all their neighbours?

Yuyutsu,

So you're admitting that you (and Israel) are racist then? I guess its impossible to deny it.

Yuyutsu as for your delusions of an Islamic world take over I suggest you stop watching so many Hollywood movies. Like I said mate I have only recently returned from living in Europe and all of my partner's family still live there and I can assure you there is not a shred of evidence suggesting any Islamic invasion of Europe - militarily, culturally, psycologically any which way you look at it.

The only country in the world today who I see actively persuing an empirialist plan is Israel backed by the US.

Anyway, none of this matters to you anyway does it? Israel could start a nuclear war and destroy half the planet and you would somehow try to justify it and blame someone else.

Such blind faith, such unwillingness to even consider the facts, zero desire to scrutinize actions which are causing so much death and destruction really baffles me. I can assure you that if for example Australia were in the same position as Israel I would at least question what the government was doing - even if I ultimately agreed with them I would scrutinize any action which involved invading another country and killing loads of innocent civilians.

Just remember it was those who blindly followed with out question the Nazi regime in Germany that led to the death and destruction that happened there. How can you now inflict that on another people?