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We must be willing to be unwilling towards Israel : Comments

By James McConvill, published 7/8/2006

Israel has changed the parameters of the axis of evil in the latest Middle East conflict.

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You really believe your own propaganda!
Wake up!
Posted by Stan1, Saturday, 12 August 2006 12:14:42 AM
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Has Iran or Hezbollah slaughtered the Christians in Lebanon? No. They have not slaughtered anyone in Lebanon. So tell me, why would Lebanon want to rid itself of Hezbollah - the one army which has defended it against the real terrorists? You claim Iran wants to make Lebanon a Shiite Muslim country. If this were the case then why are the Christians still in Lebanon? Why are the Jews living peacefully in Iran?

The only problem always has been and always will be Israel. Simple. No amount of propaganda can convince the world otherwise (unless they are stupid enough to believe it or unless they want to believe it's true because they themselves have some kind of affinity with Israel).

How can you say Israel has not slaughtered Lebanese civilians? I find that incredibly offensive. I can't believe you can say that 1000 civilians were just in the wrong place. THEY ARE IN THEIR COUNTRY THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE WITHOUT FEAR OF BOMBS, MISSILES AND ISRAEL.

Yet the 30 or so Israeli dead were deliberately targetted by Hezbollah?? Please! Spare us this diatribe.

The Lebanese hate Israel more than ever. If any of them want Hezbollah gone it does not mean they see Israel as the hero. 90% of public opinion is now against Israel with more and more people supporting Hezbollah. Israel has achieved and will achieve nothing but more hatred against it, more violence and more terrorism. It only has itself to blame.

And to answer the question what does Israel hope to achieve? It hopes to achieve that little slice of land in between Syria, near Jordan and Palestine. They want Lebanon. They want land. They are greedy, money hungry, power hungry aggressors who will stop at nothing.
Posted by fleurette, Saturday, 12 August 2006 4:47:51 AM
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There is no doubt whatsoever that James McConville is pro terrorist and anti Jew. I have not read anything as one sided and as politically partisan since the press shriekings against the so called “gun lobby” after Port Arthur.

Look James, if you want to write propaganda, it has to be good propaganda. The trick is to appear even handed, even when you are clearly not. Your effort is so transparently pro Islam that it is similar to the “spontaneous confessions” by US pilots shot down over Korea, that were presented to the United Nations by the Red Chinese, with titles such as ‘How My Cruel Capitalist Masters Forced Me To Wage Inhuman Germ Warfare On Peace Loving Socialist Civilians.”

Look James, unless you can come up with a valid reason why Israel should not shoot back at the Islamofascists who are shooting Katyushka rockets at their cities, then your little rant will have about as much impact on public opinion as last weeks form guide. Every intelligent person in this world understands the principle of self defence. And if you are trying to say that Muslims are really just nice, misunderstood guys who just want peace, then you definitely have a credibility problem with the Australian public.

The Israelis are dropping bombs on the Islamofascists, and most of the people who live in Cronulla or Maroubra, or who had loved ones blown to bits in Bali, would probably wish the Israeli bombardiers some good luck.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 13 August 2006 11:44:57 AM
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Marilyn Shepherd has a heart of cold stone. Her hatred for the West is so great that she cannot even condemn Iran for the execution of "that Iranian girl", (Atefah Sahaaleh by the way, Shepherd - she had a name) who was murdered by the Iranian regime for "acts incompatible with chastity". This poor girl was hung after being raped by an official or Iran's Islamic government - becoming unchaste in the process.

What is wrong with Shepherd that she can see no evil in this? Why can't she criticise evenhandedly? Why can't she condemn evil wherever it is, even if it is embarrassing to her cause? Now that "that Iranian girl" is dead at the hands of the Iranian sharia dictatorship, was does Shepherd have to say?

Like I said before, a fitting punishment for Shepherd's cruelty and support for religious dicatorships would be to be forced to live under a full-face burkha for the rest of her natural life in one of these sick sharia states that she so rabidly defends.
Posted by Kvasir, Sunday, 13 August 2006 2:21:03 PM
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Fleurette, sorry to get down to your level of unfounded libel against innocent victims of terror, which you never even met: how can you say you did not enjoy slaughtering your grandmother? I find that incredibly offensive... don't try to sell me cheap excuses like she's still alive, Please! Spare us this diatribe - I tell you what you hope to achieve: you want her jewelery. You are greedy, money hungry, power hungry aggressor who will stop at nothing... The only problem always has been and always will be yourself. Simple. No amount of propaganda can convince the world otherwise (unless they are stupid enough to believe it or unless they want to believe it's true because they themselves have some kind of affinity with you).

The Jews still in Iran agreed to live as subordinate Dhimmis. They have (at least openly) given up their nationality and maintain Judaism merely as a religion. Their peace is relative and temporary. They will be kept alive for as long as it suits Iran's propaganda. Iran wishes to make not just Lebanon, but the whole world, a Shiite Muslim country, accepting no other way of life.

Those Lebanese civilians - much fewer than "1000" (most of whom Hezbullah fighters, who have a tactic of not admitting casualties), were hit because they were close to Hezbullah installations. Some allowed it while others were forced to have Hezbullah operate from their homes. Those who were not involved with Hezbullah had and still have nothing to fear.

If Israel wanted, Israel's air-force could alone destroy the whole of Lebanon, but this was never Israel's intention. Wherever Israel knew of the presence of civilians, it sent ground troops instead, resulting in casualties. Israeli mothers, wives and children lost their children, husbands and fathers, and many Israeli soldiers lost limbs because they risked their lives for the sole purpose of protecting Lebanese civilians.

Israel cares about their Lebanese brothers. Israel wants Lebanon for the Lebanese only and looks forward to helping Lebanon rebuild. Once free of fear, Lebanon will thank Israel openly as they now do in secret.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 13 August 2006 2:29:11 PM
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Stan1, don't you get it? It's ALL propaganda! Neither side is running short of bullsh*t to spew. People on one side, let's say the Israeli side have been spoon fed just as much bullsh*t as the people on the Hezbollah side. To think otherwise is not only naive, but ignorant.

I don't take sides.. you see I believe they're both as bad as each other. Of course the American tax payer pays for Israel's follies...so why shouldn't Iran pay for Hezbollah's? It's the same thing. Any higher ground the west and or Israel may of had has been lost a long time ago.

They all are as bad as each other. That my dear is the bottom line.

Peace - Stephanie.

http://www.politicallysound.com
Posted by Stephanie, Monday, 14 August 2006 4:28:25 AM
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