Boaz: Who are you to maintain that practising Muslims don't "know" what Shariah is? The one thing in your view (and others) that makes Islam what is is - Muslims themselves are completely ignorant of it? It doesn't make sense mate.

The fact that you (and others) continue to maintain that Shariah is a huge monolithic block, without nuance or difference, is what astounds me the most. It denies the essence of the Islamic legal/interpretive tradition - of which the majority is based squarely upon scholars understanding, as well as established precedent (as all legal traditions are).

The fact that you feel the need to use Shaykh bin Google to look up badly translated hadith online, or extreme news articles and point to it as "proof" of anything is downright embarassing, especially when it is simply one among many others that could teach the exact opposite. But by refusing to see how the Islamic tradition understands, and more importantly USES these references, you are being circular.

"Your" Islam is not what everyday Muslims believe and practise. "Their" Islam comes from the organic tradition they have been surrounded in, exposed to by their family and others, which is often the polar opposite to what you post. No one is denying that there are Muslim extremists who say and do repulsive things. If you wanted to combat them truly, you would see what those from within the religious tradition are doing to deny them their fake legitimacy.

The fact that you puport to know "real" Islam, as opposed to those who have lived it, grown up surrounded by it, studied it from those who lived it is nothing but complete balderdash.

You expect others to honestly believe that you not only know your OWN religion inside out - but also another? Without bias? Another that is quite obviosuly doctrinally different in many respects to the religious belief you share and based on different concepts, as well as source texts, amongst other things.

These posts are getting old fast, and I don't believe I am the only one who thinks this.

Humanitarian aspects of HAMAS are a fig leaf used by the EU to continuingly exercise its influence in a region as the US and Israel demanded cutting the ties with terrorist organizations, Fellow_Human.

And prince Charles is famous for dancing in the UAE as well as too many of Australian establishment there.

Probably, inextricability of human assistance and pro-terrorism military acts makes Hamas-like organizations as much popular in Muslim world as a variety of aspects contemporarily re-considering by the Conference on the Crusades attracted a Christian world past millenniums

Hello Boaz,

Thanks for your well wishes and no I know its not personal. You have a grudge against Islam and hate all Muslims evenly :-) The pig trick was a bit cruel although for your reference many Egyptian Christians don't eat ham and they circumsise their boys. I guess their 'meaning interpretation' of Jesus (pbuh) hadith is contextual:-)

Benjamin,

What kind of brain washing material are you reading and or sniffing?
I am at the point of laughter at your last postings you are becoming worse than coach!

"Massacred Jewish tribes"...So why did they always live in Muslim countries? Why did they prosper in Muslim countries and why did they always hide from their persecuters (including the famous Spanish conquest) amongst Muslims?

Its one thing to create a BS but to eat it and say it "It tastes good" is weird.

Dawood

In your post to Boaz you said "The fact that you puport to know "real" Islam, as opposed to those who have lived it, grown up surrounded by it, studied it from those who lived it is nothing but complete balderdash." - the fact is, many who have lived it, grown up surrounded by it and studied it from those who lived it HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND ABANDONED ISLAM.

Sorry David ,I thought you knew being Sydney centric.It was a Rugby league game last weekend and the Canterbury Middle Eastern supporters rioted.It's been in all the Sydney papers.They also bashed people on the trains.Aparently Morris Iemma is going to have a riot squad of 150 police at their next game.Why should we be paying for this nonsense?

The rioting that began at Sundays Bulldogs game began by Lebanese Muslim males harrasing two girls. Those around took offense at the lewd behaviour of these males and said something then the bashing started.

These are Muslims living in Australia - not Afganistan or Iran. This is the type of Muslim male we are dealing with in Sydney. It is not the tolerant, peaceful, moral people we hear F_H and Ifran portray as the character of Islam. If it were only true. These boys attend Mosque, and are protected by the Muslim community. Police are threatened if they attempt to arrest them by sheer weight of numbers coming to these criminals defense. That is why the announcement of 150 riot police are now rostered to attend Bulldogs games.

It is all very well talking about Bikie gangs of the past. But they never pretended to be a World Religion, that is why they were defiant against religion by the name "Hells Angels". But I can say they didn't behave like cowards toward women.