Fair dinkum?

@McAdam

McAdams pontificates that <<Less than 2 percent, attacks were committed by Muslims in Europe>>

Here's a nice little footnote--its a comment on a similar apologists claim in a mainstream newspaper.

"I agree, Mark Twain once wrote "there are lies, damn lies and statistics": The above analysis is quantitative and gives the same weight of an eco terrorist spray painting a building (destruction of property) to the 911 attacks.

A qualitative analysis (eg. number of people killed in all terrorist attacks) suggests that 93.8% of all murders by terrorist attack were committed by Muslim terrorists between 1980 and 2005.

As of 2007, the US Muslim population was 0.6%. Projected from 0.6% of the population to to committing 93.8% of the deaths suggest that Muslims are 156 times more likely to commit an act of terrorism where someone is killed.

Most Americans have not read the Qur'an and applied tafsir... They are too lazy, ignorant and indifferent (don't know, don't care).

The political correctness in America doesn't call attacks like the DC Sniper a terrorist attack - though he was retaliating for America's decision to invade Iraq."

So perhaps we would be better served looking at Muslims as percentage of population visa vee the percentage of crimes they commit --just a thought!

More peace loving Muslims:
http://i1.mail.com/778/3306778,h=425,pd=1,w=620.jpg

I mean, you can just tell from the expressions on their faces that they are lovable chaps :)

And this is in Pakistan. The country that McAdam had assured us had risen up en mass against fundamentalism!

Here is some of the photo's accompanying commentary:

"Clashes erupted in Karachi when protesters started heading toward the French consulate, throwing stones at police, who pushed them back with water cannons and tear gas...

Police officer Naseer Tanoly said some of the protesters were armed and opened fire on the police...

About 1,000 people gathered in Islamabad to condemn the French publication. The demonstrators carried signs that read "Shame on Charlie Hebdo," and "If you are Charlie, then I am Kouachi" — referring to the brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi, who were killed after carrying out the attack on the newspaper office. They had claimed to be sent by al-Qaida in Yemen.

A second day of protests in Lahore drew about 800 people. On Thursday, Pakistani lawmakers passed a resolution against cartoons of the prophet and marched outside parliament to protest Charlie Hebdo's latest cover."

My last post contained an extract of the article written by Dean Obeidallah.
It is good to question his statistics and his conclusions. It is this approach to news that will guard us against being targets of the controlled media.

However, I find merit in author's observation that, "In 2011, Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-“Christian Europe” agenda as he stated in his manifesto." Yet not a voice was raised about "Christian Terrorism" same thing happened in the wake of Oklahoma Bombing, no one called Timothy McVeigh a Christian Terrorist or even a terrorist. It is understandable, that had these acts been committed by Muslims, the media response would have been different.....that is the whole point.

An other point is the repeated complaints of the parents that their children are set up.John Cornell father of Christopher Cornell, the young man alleged of plotting to bomb the capital, says his son was set up by FBI. "snitch."
Similar allegation was leveled by the mother of teen ager under trial as "Boston Bomber"
Similarly Mohamed Osman Mohamud (born 1991), a Somali-Americanstudent, was arrested in an FBI sting operation on November 26, 2010, in alleged car bombing. The attorney for Mohamud argued that his client was entrapped by FBI
One sees a patron here.

Sense of context is important. Right now, as it appears to me, West realizes it need to insulte its population from Muslims and Muslims need to be kept under check.
The states need extraordinary powers to do it and justification is required. The situation is not going to change overnight. This, to me, is the meaning of the term " it is religious, it is ideological and it is going to take time."

These are interesting times we are living in. We need to keep our eyes open.

On situation in Pakistan, the Pope warned you, but you think you are wiser than Pope.

Hate begets hope...cool it...don't provoke, particularly when provocation suits states looking for more coercive powers.

McAdam, if you're going to quote me, include the further point I made that, in the New Testament, God and his angels do the dirty work. Followers are not exhorted to it.

After Christ's death, Christians, followers of his teachings, first appear in the Bible. They are not accountable for what whatever was done in the name of the god of the Jews that preceded them. Take those matters up with Jews.

Before Christ it was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". After him it was "turn the other cheek".

The Quran exhorts Allah's followers to acts of offensive violence. Unfortunately there is no Jesus character in that book to take his followers into a peaceful direction which some might cleave to.

Being a peaceful Muslim comes down to an individual decision to be so and to ignore the Quran's violent exhortations, not denying the fact that they are there to be followed.

NC, if you take normal people, not fundamentalist Muslims, and ask them to choose how to govern themselves, they won't choose to subjugate themselves to a higher authority. In history, power/authority has come from the barrel of a gun, not consensus. Governance in China, is a product of a history I have no ability to change, but would if I could, as I would with repressive regimes everywhere.

Fundamentalist Islam trucks no place in governance for viewpoints other than Allah's. Secular democracy is an oxymoron. Therefore, the only counter to fundamentalism, where it consumes a majority of the populace, is dictatorship.

Hi Luciferase,

Not an oxymoron - 'secular democracy' is a tautology, although of course, there have been, and are, secular dictatorships as well. Nothing's dead-certain in this world.

Islam claims that it adds onto Judaism and Christianity, and completes them. It goes one better than they do.

For example, the Good Samaritan parable in the New testament, of someone helping one who is not of his own group, simply because he is a fellow human being, presumably has a counterpart in the Koran, or in the hadiths. Perhaps someone could enlighten me :)

Yes, there is the story of the woman throwing garbage daily on Muhammad as he passed below. Lovely story. I'm trying to start a rumour of what happened to a Shi'ite Kurdish woman in Mosul who threw garbage on an IS fighter walking below.

I'm just trying to work out how the story ended, then I'll put it on-line ...... Any help gladly welcome !

Joe