And this Suspicious Person with Questionable Reliability persists in his; hurried waffles, point scoring, spins and outright misinformation. His sole contribution is negative. Not a single knowledge based researched piece that could have enriched the Forum.

Likes of this Suspicious Person, have always lead themselves into believing that others are inferior or fools. Reality is that the recipient knows the difference between the rubbish this Suspicious Person, is apparently paid to paddle and sincere information and thought.
As I had said earlier, because of the lies this person has been consistently posting, I care two hoots for his opinion and care less for his below the belt remarks.

In view of what we experienced with Monis --i wonder how many of these fine chappies:
http://i1.mail.com/778/3306778,h=425,pd=1,w=620.jpg

Will appear on our doorstep appealing for sanctuary?

No doubt McAdam and NC would welcome them :)

Luciferase,

"..it is that facts that count in the final analysis"

Yes it the facts! My friend.

And the ‘facts’ are again missing in your repeated rant of violence in Quran.

To my request: <<.. would you (also) care to quote Quran on violence.>>

All you have is smooth slick wording and NO references.

<<Quran says a few nice things, which I've never countered>>

Good to see that you see ‘few nice things’ in Quran. Keep exploring this book, it is all about JUSTICE. And justice authorises you to hold the aggressor's hand by force.

This should not offend a rational mind, but you are apparently offended by it.

<<Yes, I feel strongly about democracy and freedom>>

Nice attempt to tamper down your mission to enforce your ideology on the rest of the world. But, it is different from religious zealots who want to force God into your life. Tell me that!

<<Why don't you just admit secular democracy is immoral in the eyes of Allah>>

Is it not clear from my posts so far, that the principles of “Mutual Consultation” and “Justice”, enjoined by Quran are NOT opposed to democracy?

The thread records my views that democracy is the best system, despite its shortcomings. Can you question that in your right mind?

Secularism and NOT the democracy is the issue, and it is so because you keep insisting on making secularism as part of democracy.

Godlessness may be good for you, but how do you decide that it is good for me too?

<<while Westerners turn the other cheek to maintain social cohesion>>

Killing hundreds and thousands in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan was turning the other cheek?

How far can you go hiding facts under your slick wording. Facts, NOT the words matter, my friend.

<<Take your finger out of my face>>

I don’t want my finger on any one’s face. I have just tried to defend Quran in the face of your belligerent and misinformed attacks.

Stop insulting me and my faith. I will have no reason to respond to you

@ McAdam & co

I found this on another thread--it not my work, but someone elses. In view of McAdam's (earlier) proud boast <<Less than 2 percent, attacks were committed by Muslims in Europe>> it is worth a read here to:

‘morning Keith,

Busy as you and many others like you may be, in sorting out the “Soul of Islam”, does anyone want to discuss the enormity of what they are trying to appease?

The Institute for Economics and Peace reports 24,866 Islamic Terror attacks between 9/11 and the end of 2013. At least 306,381 people were killed or critically injured. This includes 126,165 killed and 180,216 critically injured.

The Global Terrorism Index shows a 61% increase from 2012 to 2013, (11,133 deaths to 17,958 deaths), and that “extreme interpretations of Wahhabi Islam are the key commonality.”

How might things look for 2014? I have reproduced statistics for the months of Jan/July/Nov. 2014.

Research by the BBC and Kings College shows that for the month of November 2014 alone there were 664 Islamic Jihad attacks across 14 countries with 5,042 deaths.

In January, 2014 there were 239 attacks, in 23 countries with 1,413 dead and 2,162 critically injured.

In July 7 to August 8, 2014, statistics show there were 235 attacks, 2,750 deaths and 8,600 injured.

Averaging the figures for these months and multiplying by 12, we arrive at a projected 4,548 attacks and 36,819 deaths. This would be an increase from 2013 to 2014 of over 100%.

The GTI report concludes that “Over the 2012/2013 period, the number of countries that experienced more than 50 deaths rose from 15 to 24. This highlights that not only is the intensity of terrorism increasing, its breadth is increasing as well.”

Before the PC “relativists” get too carried away with “Ah well there are lots of other groups committing terror attacks, it’s not just Islam”.

The National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) states that of the 12,533 terrorism-related deaths worldwide (2011), there were only 170 by a category described as “other”, and 77 by “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups.
(continued...)

Interestingly the NCTC records separately the 1,926 terror attacks by “secular/political/anarchists” which were primarily identified as Marxist, Communist, Socialist sympathizers (Progressives).

Now who would have thought that the Leftwing terrorists would out perform the “Neo-Nazi/Fascist/White Supremacist” groups the Progressives so love to blame?
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 18 January 2015 10:15:21 AM

Hi SPQR,

Looking at those statistics, of "24,866 Islamic Terror attacks between 9/11 and the end of 2013. At least 306,381 people were killed or critically injured ... " 170 terrorist attacks by neo-Nazis etc. and 1,926 terrorist attacks by 'progressives',

I think you may have mis-quoted McAdam's statement - it probably actually read: <<Less than 2 percent, attacks were not committed by Muslims in Europe>>

We need to be accurate when we cite figures :)

Bertrand Russell compared the Bolsheviks to Islam in 1920, remarking that both semi-fascist groups (as they really were, and are) sought (what we would now call) quick-fix solutions to complex problems. Part and parcel of that approach was a reliance on terror, on the quick elimination of dissidents and 'doubtfuls', control of how people outwardly think, and close direction in how they were supposed to live henceforth.

I'll have to go back and compare what Lenin and Trotsky were ordering, with Shari'a. Of course, there will be differences in terminology, different uniforms, but if that was stripped away, I wonder how similar they would be.

Scary.

Joe