Continued
Joe,

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FACTS

1. The world Taqiyya has its origin in word “Waqa” which means “safequard”/”self-protection”.
2. As you can see, IT DEALS ONLY WITH A SITUATION WHERE PERSONAL SAFETY IS THREATENED by the force a Muslim is subjected to;
3. World constitutions and penal codes of societies of this day acknowledge the fact the any statement/contracts made in duress have no legal standing.
4. There is not an iota of a suggestion here that the Muslims have been authorised to lie to unbelievers to achieve any other objectives;

SOURCES

The details of the background, pointed out above, have been meticulously preserved in the early records of Islam. The original information is accessible to modern-day researchers who are able to demolish medieval distortions surrounding Islam for the readers in the non-Muslim world.

On Taqiyya, the following references will suffice.

a: “Shorter Encyclopaedia of Islam Hardcover” – by H. A. R. Gibb & J. H. Kramers (1997)
b: “New Encyclopedia of Islam”: A Revised Edition of the Concise Encyclopedia of Islam - by Cyril Glasse & Huston Smith (2001)

MEDIEVAL MINDSET AND INTERNET HATE SITES

The medieval mindset is still attached to the medieval distortions even though these distortions have been completely demolished by new research in the West. It has benefited the people of west, the Muslim world always had access to the original records. But, interestingly, the medieval mindset has resurfaced recently in a host of hat sites at the net, which, unfortunately constitute THE SOURCE for these distortions echoing in this thread.

Taqiyya, a phenomenon that delivers peace to sincere persons uncomfortable with their utterances in duress, is being presented as ‘code of Taqiyya’ and exploded out of context to further objectives of the medieval mindset.

Joe,

I notice you still asking me questions (your post of the 27th).

Know that have you lost any right to my response until:

• you answer my questions – about 72 hours old now; and
• apologise for making a false statement that Quran was written 100 years after Muhammad’s death.

Your other false statements would have come under scrutiny if a rational exchange had progressed, which did not because of your refusal to answer legitimate questions. Your answer would have exposed your ignorance you are hiding under tricky statements coming from you.

Know further that an exchange where you can ask me questions and I cannot (my post of the 26th) is NOT ON.

I addressed you for first time on the 24th appreciating in good-faith your statement “Nobody is demonising Muslims – nobody has to”.

I am now convinced that you never meant what you said.

This along with:

• your misinformation;
• your misquotes;
• your pressing on with a crooked question resting on a false statement from your associate for a yes or no answer – which I dismantled by demolishing the false assumption it rested on;
• your throwing around terminologies like “Medina option”, “Mecca option” etc despite your total ignorance of historical facts; and
• your attempts to “demonise Muslims”

have lead me to the conclusion that you are, if fact, another SPQR.

This is my last message directly addressed to you.

I will keep doing what I have been doing i.e. posting facts for upright minds on the subject I have pursued so far

Come on NC, no one has to “demonise Muslims” .

They do a damn good job of doing it for themselves, where ever they raise their ugly heads.

NC/McAdam,

So, since you don't agree that IS and all the other thug-terrorist groups across the Muslim world are flouting, or going against, anything in the Koran, then you believe that they ARE acting and speaking fully in accordance with the Koran ?

It follows that you are suggesting that the Koran allows the beheading of children, the rape, murder and enslavement of women and girls, the murder of unarmed prisoners, etc. ? Is that so ?

Or have I misunderstood ? That really, all the Islamo-fascist groups are operating in direct opposition to genuine Islam ?

Which is to it to be, NC/McAdam ? A simple 'yes' or 'no' ?

Or, of course, you can keep blustering and obfuscating, to dodge the issue.

Joe

Joe you are very lucky

NC demands: <<apologise for making a false statement that Quran was written 100 years after Muhammad’s death>>

The usual options offered are --conversion or death!

And here's a better assessment of Taqiyya:
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

<<Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it … We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.[5]>>