McAdam,

You're right: "HATE destroys. And it's first victim is the beholder; it destroys his/her ability to stay rational and impartial."

So on a spectrum from 'Love' to 'Hate', where would you put the killing of 130 children ?

But then you deliberately twist any rational commentary:

"Example of irrational thinking is the quoting of incidents manifestly in name of Islam, and then concluding that all Muslims...should be condemned."

Who ever has said or written that ? I certainly don't believe that to be true. There must be millions upon millions of Muslims who would never hurt anybody. Do I have to repeat that before you will drop your stupid and dishonest interpretation ?

Who ever has said or written that all crimes committed by Muslims can be attributed to ball Muslims ? I certainly don't believe that to be true. There must be millions upon millions of Muslims who would never hurt anybody.

"It is said, Malala was shot and 132 school children were massacred in Pakistan and the recommendation implied is that all two hundred million of Pakistanis be condemned ... "

Is that how your mind works ? If you were not Muslim, would you condemn all Muslims for the acts of a few ? As an atheist, I wouldn't. But if and when people commit crimes in the name of a god, such as the attempted murders in France in the last couple of days, then we must call it as it is - an attempted crime in the name of Allah.

If crimes are committed here in Australia, or in Pakistan, or in Nigeria, or in Syria, or in Yemen, or in India (the Mumbai killings), and those crimes were committed in the name of Allah, then what else is anyone to think than that they were committed in the name of Allah ? What Allah thinks off it all, I wouldn't comment, that's for Muslims to do, the millions upon millions of Muslims who would never dream of committing such vile acts in the name of their god.

Joe

K. S. Ramakrishna Rao, a non-Muslim, in his book entitled “Muhammad: The Prophet of Islam” (1989) observes that presenting truth in this day and age is not a challenge:

“because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam that “there is no compulsion in religion” is well known.”

The message for those still engaged in spreading misinformation about Muhammad is that TRUTH IS OUT.

The following (readily available) are few of the long list of references which attest this TRUTH.

1. Encyclopedia Britannica
2. Thomas Carlyle
3. Sir George Bernard Shaw
4. Karen Armstrong
5. W Montgomery Watt
6. Lamartine
7. Mahatma Gandhi
8. Edward Gibbon
9. Simon Ocklay
10. Bosworth Smith
11. Annie Besant
12. Michael H. Hart
13. Edward Montet
14. Dr. William Draper
15. Arthur Glyn Leonard
16. Philip K. Hitti
17. Washington Irving
18. James Michener
19. K. S. Ramakrishna Rao
20. Professor Jules Masserman

Muhammad has lived in full blaze of history:

• More people have written about him than about any other individual in the human history;
• Microscopic analyses of all aspects of his life have resulted in immense respect of him by the scholars, historians and institutions.

As a humble student of this great life, I can address misunderstandings about him, but the query has to be from a rational mind open to facts.

Unfortunately, some of the posts (language included) of the peddlers of misinformation here leave no ambiguity about their mission of whipping hatred ONLY.

Do I expect anything from them which is remotely rational: NO!
Do I produce these quotes for their consumption: of course NOT; or for their response: NOT at all.

These are the primary search tools for rational minds who want to discover truth for themselves, which is quite easy about Muhammad in this day and age, as observed by Mr Rao, above.

Continued ….

Continued from the last post

Today’s quotes on Muhammad:

Bosworth Smith (1784-1884) – American Protestant Episcopal bishop and writer in his book entitled “Mohammad and Mohammadanism”, London (1874), writes:

“He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue. If ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammad, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.

Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)- hardly needs an introduction, in a weekly paper entitled “Young India”, writes

“I wanted to know the best of one who holds today’s undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind .. I became more that convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his mission…

Professor Jules Masserman (1905-1994) –Professor at the University of Chicago in Time Magazine (15 July 1974) in an article entitles “Who were History’s Great Leaders”, writes

"People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same."

@ NC

<<Who cherry picked a quote from Gandhi to try and show that Gandhi thought that Islam was the best thing since sliced naan>>

Gandhi was probably being diplomatic --trying to hold the disparate parties together--THE COLD HARD UNDIPLOMATIC TRUTH IS TENS-OF-MILLIONS OF HINDUS AND BUDDHISTS WERE MASSACRED IN AN ATTEMPT TO CONVERT THE SUBCONTINENT TO THE RELIGION OF PEACE.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims

Adolf Hitler quote:

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

"Winston Churchill warned Neville Chamberlain that Nazism was hell bent on world conquest and that Hitler's peace posturing was a thin charade. But Neville Chamberlain would not listen and Hitler laid waste to countless lives and damn near took over the world."

Winston Churchill quote on Islam:

The River War: An Historical Account of the Reconquest of the Soudan (1899), by Winston Churchill, concerning his experiences as a British Army officer, during the Mahdist War (1881–99) in the Sudan.

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

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...Churchill quote:

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims

“Muhammad ibn Zakariy&#257; R&#257;z&#299; (865 – 925 AD) was a Persian physician, alchemist, chemist, philosopher, and scholar.

If the people of this religion [Islam] are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed.””

Wole Soyinka[edit]
"Akinwande Oluwole "Wole" Soyinka (born July 13, 1934) is a Nigerian writer, poet and playwright. In 1986, he became the first African to be awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature. In 1994, he was designated UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador for the promotion of African culture, human rights, freedom of expression, media and communication.

“England is a cesspit. England is the breeding ground of fundamentalist Muslims. Its social logic is to allow all religions to preach openly. But this is illogic, because none of the other religions preach apocalyptic violence. And yet England allows it. Remember, that country was the breeding ground for communism, too. Karl Marx did all his work in libraries there.
. . .

We should assemble all those who are pure and cannot abide other faiths, put them all in rockets, and fire them into space.
. . .
A virus has attacked the world of sense and sensibility, and it has spread to Nigeria.
. .
The assumption of power over life and death then passed to every single inconsequential Muslim in the world-as if someone had given them a new stature...Al Qaeda is the descendent of this phenomenon. The proselytization of Islam became vigorous after this. People went to Saudi Arabia. Madrassas were established everywhere.”

Muslim dad wants one of Abbott's daughter's to die&#8207;

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/you-let-my-girl-fly-off-to-die-jihadi-amira-karroums-father-blames-australian-government-for-daughters-death/story-fnii5s3x-1227154629432