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The Gaza strip in the mean time has for all intents and purposes become the largest contiguous Palestinian area in the world. The long struggle to make settler activity unviable for the Israelis saw them being removed and no erosion of their land has taken place. This has not come about without enormous cost but it is an irrefutable fact that the majority of the Palestinians saw the fight to retain land, to strive for freedom and autonomy as worth it. It is why they voted for them.

Given the hardline expansionist government in power in Israel it is hard to see a different course of action that would retain land for the Palestinians. From their point of view Israel continues to flaunt UN resolutions and is determined to keep Hamas and Fatah separate knowing Hamas would stiffen Fatah from continuing as a Vichy style puppet government, colluding with the occupiers, and whose weakness sees more and more land being devoured by the illegal settlers.

It is worth remembering that the last suicide bombing on Israeli soil was back in 2008. Hamas has a measure of control over the various militias operating in Gaza and that control has resulted in more strategic actions less damaging to its cause. The escalating brutality is all being driven from the Israelis which is seeing some long term vigorous supporters within the US mainstream media rethinking their positions;

“This is asinine,” said the MSNBC host and former Republican congressman. “This continued killing of women and children in a way that appears to be indiscriminate is asinine.” Scarborough described himself as having a record as one of Israel’s biggest supporters, saying, “I’ve always been a 100 percent supporter of Israel. The joke in Congress was anytime I wanted a key to the city of Tel Aviv, I could, you know, get a gold-plated one.” “The United States of America — we cannot be associated with this if this continues. This is so bad, not only for the Israeli people, but for us,” Scarborough said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/joe-scarborough-israel-gaza-109577.html#ixzz39Dv6TWDO

SPQR Continued.. 2 Aug 2014
Second part of my post (below) addressing your question was deferred by the site for four hours so here it is.

The likes of you have recorded their positions in the indelible ink of history. To justify slavery (18th and 19th century Europe), they declared black people to be so inferior as to justify their enslavement – (read literature then attempt a comment). During Holocaust (20th century Germany), they said that Jews were so terrible that their only treatment was the Holocaust (literature available). During Apartheid era (20th century colonial powers), they said the sub-human blacks can’t live side by side with a superior race (literature available).

And now when it comes to Holocaust combined with Apartheid unleashed on Palestinians, they (I mean you) say that Palestinians deserve this because they are Muslims.
Your strategy has been repeated in the history so many times that it is an open secret in this age. With all the schemes you think you can devise, the world-citizen today can see through you.

Now your question “YOUR DEFINITION OF OCCUPIED TERRITORIES?"

My answer is a question to you: Do you agree to a genuine third party arbitration to decide what is the occupied territory?
Of course, I mean genuine arbitrators – not a group operating under final say of the known backers of a party in dispute.

Now (your most recent post)
• On “accounts of atrocities” the world press is full of graphic details – you don’t see those?
• You misquote me once again – I did not get into merits or otherwise of any religion, just challenged your false quote on Quran
• Now you seem to see that ONLY Muslims don’t shed blood along with other horrible acts your posts have been suggesting. It also means, hopefully, that you will see the response of Palestinian as a natural human response to an aggression. And if you bring in their beliefs in the equation and through that renter crooked doors of history you have devised yourself, then I will say your back to square one.

"How is it possible?". asks Mr Cheema, "that the Palestinians provoked Israel?"

Well, I will tell you how.

They belong to a warlike and failed religion in which everything is "inshallah". It is a religion of hate which has failed to give it's adherents any means of obtaining prosperity through the application of scientific principles. it is a religion where its priestly class is terrified of losing its grip over its own devotees and they need somebody to blame for its own people's misery.

It is a religion which preaches that if you die fighting for Islam you are a "Jihadi" who is the highest grade of Muslim. But if you just kill an infidel you are a "Ghazi" who is almost as good.

It is a religion which is behind almost all of the terrorism now raging on this planet. It is a paranoid religion which sees everybody who is not a Muslim as its enemy. The only hope it gives its adherents is a better life after they are dead, preferably fighting to expand this dangerous religion. It's most dedicated adherents are males with no education other than reading the Koran and listening to hate preachers.

This results in situations where "Palestinians" use every subterfuge to advance their desire to destroy Israel, which they see as an affront to their God. There is no trick too low to advance their murderous cause. They will even strap explosives onto children and send them towards Israeli checkpoints while at the same time crying to the west's naive leftists how beastly the Israelis are for killing their children.

"Palestine" does not build Ipods or microchips. It is not economically viable. Its population growth is idiotic in a "country" with no jobs other than being a soldier to kill Israelis. It exists on UN goodwill and AID which it routinely misuses to kill Israelis. It exists on AID from oil rich Muslim countries who see 'Palestine" as their pawns in their never ending desire to destroy Israel.

If HAMAS declared that it wanted peace with Israel, it would be out of business.

Thankfully Australia has stepped up to deliver $5 million dollars in aid to Gaza. They certainly are not prepared to come out and directly challenge Israel's slaughter of civilians as yet, I'm wondering how many more have to blown apart for that to happen, but the money will certainly help and I regard it as a proper use of foreign aid.

Here is a picture of an Israeli bomb about to demolish another building. The terror felt by the ordinary Palestinians must be debilitating and beyond my imagination.
http://i.imgur.com/PboeSoV.jpg

Jayb
Your post about reaping etc shows quite obviously your intellect is as limited as your ability to reflect Australian values.

You are still a coward, liar and racist

Well said LEGO, everything you have said is 100% correct. These people are still living in the Dark Ages & refuse to come out.

Steelie: http://i.imgur.com/PboeSoV.jpg

Great photo. But you have just proved a point. Hamas has fired 20000+ unguided Rockets into Civilian areas of Israel. The sole purpose is create terror & kill women & children. Do we agree on that point.

Now have a closer look at the bomb. It is a 500lb Mk82 LGB. The 500lb is it's explosive potential, Mk82 designates the type of General Purpose bomb, & the LGB stands for Laser Guided Bomb. Note the attachment on the nose of the Bomb. that is the Laser Guided attachment. This allows for pin point accuracy, allowing the Bomb to hit precisely what it is aimed at, as apposed to fire & forget Rockets used by Hamas. So, thank you for that.

i'm a nutter: Your post about reaping etc shows quite obviously your intellect is as limited as your ability to reflect Australian values.

It is precisely my Australian values which allows me to see through the Aims ideology of Islam. That old Camel Train Bandit has a lot to answer for. I just bet he is burning twice a hot as everyone else in Hell.

i'm a nutter: You are still a coward, liar and racist.

Thanks again for your praise. Coming from a Jihadist supporter that is a real complement. xxxooxxxoo