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Cutting the grass in the theatre of war : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 30/7/2014

In Sderot, local Israelis pulled up chairs at hill tops to watch the bombing of Gaza. The spectators took happy snaps, shared popcorn and cheered; as the Israeli Military cut the grass - dealing death on Gaza.

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@SPQR
"Bolivia declares Israel ‘terrorist state"
http://rt.com/news/176852-bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/

Maybe a bit more focus on bolivian forums to "improve Israel's image abroad" :)

@Jayb
Jayb:"of course, you could go to a Hamas University & learn how to kill people"

No that is where you go to learn how NOT to kill people considering how ineffective their rudimentary projectiles are - not even worth launching on new year's eve. As the Author Points out the car manufacturers the world over are better at creating the 'killing machines' aka cars, causing more Israeli deaths than Hamas's dud darts.
To any half-decent human the actions of Palestinians are like a few punches and slaps a woman being raped is able to dole out to the rapist.

Jayb: "By the way, here's what the son of the founder of Hamas, Mosab Hassan Yousef had to say about Hamas, " Their goal is to conquer the globe & build an Islamic State on every inch of it."

The same people who couldn't prevent the hostile take over of their own lands by bunch of gun-toting thugs and have been reduced to a status lower than refugees in their own 'country' are out to conquer the globe? This is not a struggle against illegal occupation? Of course, makes perfect sense! :)
And Israel is the bulwark, humanity's last hope, keeping these violent crazies @ bay? Who are out to take over the world?
hehehe you seriously believe that? C'mon, do you? like seriously? cross my heart and hope to die serious? Do you? :)

I am afraid the time is up for this line of reasoning manufactured to feed the 'liberal western mind and keep it from waking up and seeing the reality, the world is beginning to see through the facade and realizing -> "It is the psychology of the murderer, the rapist, the bully. That’s what Israel is in this situation.
Posted by Hadi, Friday, 1 August 2014 4:01:39 PM
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Ok Hadi, a scenario.

Israel capitulates & hands Hamas control of all Israel.

What would Hamas next action be. Let me see.
1. Accept Israeli's as equals?
2. Instigate peace in throughout Israel.
3. Announce that all religions can be practiced in Israel without any restrictions placed on them.
4. Put away all their Arms & live in peace with the Jews, Christians, Shia, Sunni, Alahwites, Druze & Baha'is, etc.

Or....

You put what you think would happen here. I look forward to your thoughts.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 1 August 2014 5:09:29 PM
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SPQR,
You keep introducing diversions, obviously to dilute the focus. An impartial reader will see your attempts as admission of the weak basis of your reasoning.

And now you have brought in slavery and, as usual, you are blaming it all on the Muslims. I must touch your diversions while keeping the focus intact.

Not to say the no Muslim had any role in it, the slavery, an ancient practice, was common in Roman world, also the10th century Vikings would sell men and women in open markets along Volga River and Caspian Sea.

But nothing in human history compares with the Atlanta slave trade (1441-1840) in volume, exploitation and brutality. Historic records are too many and too vivid to be ignored along with the (18th and 19th Century) literature condemning the black man to an inherent inferior position for a moral justification for his enslavement – something similar to what you are trying to do to Palestinians today.
Conclusive historic evidence: How did the huge number of black Africans end up in Americas – Not on work or business visas!

On “forced conversion of Hindus in India”: Mughal kings, like their counterparts in other societies, were only interested in land and subjects. None of them needed to resort to the forced conversions as the ‘manufactured’ facts of your reference suggests – same is true about other ‘fictitious’ figures included in your post. Conversions in India happened through Sufi saints in the time span of centuries. Their tombs in Hindu areas attract millions from all faiths even today. For finding facts, you have to read the genuine history books, which apparently is not your concern.

Now you try to justify your posts by another misquote “NC's claim that Islam was an embodiment of all that was good and pure”. My post only asked you for a reference which forced you to admit that you misquoted Quran. Along with these misquotes, now you are misquoting history on a massive scale.
Your conscience should be bothered by these misquotes, and it should be shattered by your passionate support of Israeli brutalities.
Posted by NC, Friday, 1 August 2014 8:01:18 PM
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SPQR continued …..

The issue is that:

• Israel is continuously expanding its settlement on land that belongs to Palestinians who are being squeezed into sub-human standards of living.

• Fellow Jews have been invited from all over the world to take land that does not belong to them and are fully supported to hold the land by terror and oppression.

• Those (guilty of) resisting occupation are abducted and tortured in Israeli prisons in thousands

• The rest (in open prisons) are bombed by air and targeted by state-of-the-art ground weaponry supplied by US. Thousands of homes, schools and business are destroyed in regular cycles of few months

In short, people are in siege in their own land because Israel with the support of US can unleash brutalities and can get away with it.
World citizens now in ever increasing number express their disgust with the victimiser – thanks to the social media. Still a small minority of SPQRs, because of their loyalties to Israel for reasons they cannot dare to disclose, find flimsy excuses for their support for the perpetrators in the distorted versions of history and skewed facts on the ground – thanks again to information revolution, the misinformation campaign does not last.

The world-conscience demolished apartheid, and yes, there were SPQRs supporting apartheid with the arguments of faults they found in the victims then. Make no mistake, the world-conscience will not tolerate Israel’s horrendous crimes against humanity.

Israel’s support has cost US severe erosion in its word influence which sits at an unprecedented low and is in an irreversible state from all indicators. The traditional associates distant themselves from Israel in the world forums. Because of its crimes, Israel has nearly achieved a status of world-villain in the just eyes of the world citizens. The world-conscience reacts slowly, but it does eventually.
Posted by NC, Friday, 1 August 2014 8:03:47 PM
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“There is a story that one day a pagan had approached Hillel (Rabbi Hillel the elder) and told him that he would be willing to convert to Judaism if the Master could recite the whole of the Torah to him while he stood on one leg. Hillel replied: “Do not do unto others as you would not have done unto you. That is the whole of the Torah: go and learn it.”77”

Excerpt From: Armstrong, Karen. “History of God.” Ballantine Books, 2011-06-08. iBooks.
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Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewBook?id=450595283

Please Jews do to others, as you would like done to you, when the tide turns, and tide does turn; that is the lesson of history and you reap what you sow, that is a fact. This is what God is saying in Torah and This, in my understanding, is the message in Junaids article and I endorse it .
Posted by McAdam, Friday, 1 August 2014 10:46:51 PM
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@McAdam

Can't agree more with you McAdam. You have summed it up.
Posted by NC, Saturday, 2 August 2014 8:02:19 AM
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