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Joe Biden - is he up to the job?

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Paul you prefer to believe political smear campaign run by Democratic supporters than the truth. Those that were with the President on all occasions of visiting war graves NO such words were used, it all began in Atlanta by an anonymous news reporter. The same as was all the other false claims of impeachment etc.
http://www.vox.com/2020/9/4/21422733/atlantic-trump-military-suckers-losers-explained.
Four reputable news outlets, all citing anonymous sources, report President Donald Trump disparaged US troops, veterans, and missing service members, with several outlets reporting he has called military members “losers.” Yet the president, along with current and former staff on the record, continues to dispute those stories.

NOTE "anonymous sources"

Dan Scavino🇺🇸
@DanScavino
I was with POTUS in France, with Sarah, and have been at his side throughout it all. Complete lies by “anonymous sources” that were “dropped” just as he begins to campaign (and surge). A disgraceful attempt to smear POTUS, 60 days before the Presidential Election! Disgusting!!

Sarah Huckabee Sanders
@SarahHuckabee
The Atlantic story on @realDonaldTrump is total BS. I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion - this never happened. I have sat in the room when our President called family members after their sons were killed in action and it was heart-wrenching...
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 7 September 2020 7:57:33 PM
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Josephus,

I think I'm starting to get the drift of how to respond to stories, Josephus-style:

If they're favourable to how I'm supposed to think, then they're true;

If they're not favourable to how I think, then I'm supposed to consider them not to be true. Fake news.

Is that how your mind works ? I used to think that evidence mattered but I'm always trying to learn :)

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 7 September 2020 8:09:55 PM
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Hi Foxy and Joe,

I'm not surprised at the words Trump used to describe Americas war dead. Front line conscription has always been seen by the elite as something for the working class, the "losers" and "suckers". Donald's old man would have drummed into the head of the young Donald that his mission in life was to serve the nation by making money. Those lower classes of little value, were destined to be the cannon fodder, and he, Donald, was too important to be one of those "losers" and "suckers". I bet Donald had heard those words long before he used them.

When told he had to visit American war graves on a wet day in France, it would have come natural to The Donald to say "Why? anyway the place is full of losers and suckers!" He could have added my old man told me so. Trump shoots from the hip, he's not a calculating thinker, that's beyond his mental capabilities.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 7 September 2020 8:11:59 PM
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How did the story of Losers start? In a Democratic magazine!
http://www.dailywire.com/news/atlantic-owner-is-biden-megadonor-close-to-storys-author-sixth-witness-trump-opponent-disputes-story?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR21QSm1i6GHnA518rTUprS2KqB63SLUirtz5AJrxlQaYvQOE5_1MxYU9SE

The billionaire owner of The Atlantic, a left-wing magazine, is a Democrat megadonor who has donated a substantial amount of money to Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden.

On Friday, fierce Trump opponent John Bolton came out and strongly disputed The Atlantic’s report, saying that he was there on the trip where the remarks allegedly occurred yet he never heard anything along the lines of what they claimed happened.

“I didn’t hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them. I was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go Aisne-Marne cemetery,” Bolton told Fox News. “He decided not to do it because of John Kelly’s recommendation. It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do. I never heard he made that kind of comment
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:07:35 PM
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LM2

I did say about 10x so 19 times just makes my point more strongly.

Mr 0

as I was talking about Tasmania's senators your comment on the 2 senators per US state simply displays your illiteracy.

My point was that no electoral system is entirely "fair" in all aspects, but as the imbalances affect both parties equally, then the urge to change the system because your favoured candidate lost is somewhat infantile.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 6:11:56 AM
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Shadow Minister,

What is infantile is your refusal to read or
hear any other views and opinions apart from
those that agree with your yours.
You have a closed mind and all you do is keep
repeating the same tired well worn party
mantra. Any attempt at rational discussion with
you is futile and a waste of time.

Very discouraging to say the least.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 11:16:17 AM
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