individual not sure you understand it but I a cenerists from within the ALP, started this thread
And did so with two things in mind, saving billions
And controlling our borders
The Latter needs doing quickly
See we are at the start of world wide refugees flows it will get much much worse
Thinking non conservatives will, if they think about it, see lower wages for workers and a lower standard of living, as a result of too many people in our country
Rather think this weekend gave solid proof that to win elections parties must bring the center with them or perish

Belly,

Ah ! A 'centrist' ? I finally got that in your last sentence, thank you.

Do you read over your posts before you click the 'Post Comment' button ? Seriously, that little bit of extra effort saves a hell of a lot of confusion for people outside of your mind.

And full stops would help. These things: . . . . They break up sentences into understandable bits.

Joe

Loudmouth yes
And yes I have a little dyslexia
My posts are the best I can do, my mind is clear my thoughts mine
Full stops? on leaving school I could only just read, never ever leant to write until a 487 came my way
But education has been self enforced, hold full ticket ham radio, no easy pass
Have a book full of life and workplace achievements
Became a workplace trainer, got the second highest marks in this state, again no easy task
Bloke who beat me was an Engineer
Now at examinations, to train about three thousand workers across the state, we found one in six [lot of bush workers] could not read or write
Proud to have seen re schooling help some of them
Yes Joe true, may be best if I ask you what to think and if I should say it
I do however have the name of a good taxidermist!
Continued

This then young man was a communist, dad would have killed me, I this day, the person I am, would kill that young man
Dad solid Labor HATED commo,s, so do I now
Became a Socialist, but not for long, see that system is a fraud too
My lifetime word to live by [once told o sung wo] came from the Anthony Hordern tree on Razor Back Mountain
While I live I grow
Became a Labor left man, still a youth, in 1970
Barry Cohen, great man Jew by faith, seat of Robinson, was my first campaign
Whitlam my God
He, a totally useless back and front bench, infested by left wing nuts, took me to my blackest days
Clearly the left was off my menue forever
Right now, gee I am a fool! I praised Bill Shorten! hated him and Gillard for Knifing Rudd but sang his praises
Knew gee I knew, he was not the man he had been ,who lead my union out of its own destruction after an amalgamation
OFTEN said wish he would just be himself, unaware he was!
He is the man who knifed Rudd, more interested in him than me or us
So? yes the new center is my party's only path
It will take it, it must, dragging the stop the coal being mined now fools but it will under Albo, a left factional person, move in to vacant Liberal ground
And if not?
This world is not the one you or I grew up in Joe, it desperately needs a caring sharing leadership
One that sees nothing to fear in a new capitalism that thinks more of people than profit
Cares more about aid than wealth
That taxes Churches and? puts every tax dodger on notice along with multinationals pay your tax or do not trade in our countrys
Sorry about the full stops Joe how did you go with the taxidermist?

Belly I'm afraid it is you who don't understand.

The ALP has only left, far left, & full ratbag left. There is no such thing as center in Labor, & never will be.

Call your self what ever you like, but you are & probably always will be left of center.

Hasbeen please understand I like crossing verbal swords with you
We differ most times, but you are not needlessly rude
See you are not fully wrong, my parties branches have, always, been left of the party
But in Whitlams first run at the leadership of my party, he first, had to front up at the desk of? Charlie Olivers, my unions then head, and leader of the center unity faction
We came into existence because even in the 1970,s left wing, communist unions still existed
One of my Amalgamated unions halves did not fight them off until 1975
We remained undetectable until 1972, and went out of office because the mad left shattered us
Hawke brought us back Rudd Keating too steadied us, Gillard from the left Shorten badly miss using the right, tore us apart
Right now, look with eyes open, we rather than being left are walking in the tracks of past Liberal government
Change is well on the way, so too the financial slump that will remove Morrison