Belly wrote: "MHaze my sympathy to you you *clearly* are both a salesman for fake news and a victim of it"

Well so you keep asserting. But you haven't offered even an attempt to show evidence of these assertions.

I've show a couple of the myriad examples where you've fallen for fake news. You just pretend to not notice. You should learn from these errors but instead you double-down on the error.

You say I've fallen for fake news. Show examples. But not examples of news that you don't like but actually proven fake news.

You know, like the claims that 11,000 scientists signed that screwy paper you got all excited about, when it might have been 1/10th of that at best. I can't help but notice that you've decided to not even try to defend that bit of fakery. You see Belly, the problem is that if you don't use this as a learning experience, the next time some charlatan comes along, you'll fall for their claims all over again.

mhaze do you understand views other than yours exist and that right now IN AMERICA Trump's polling is in decline
In fact it is you, not me putting fake evidence on the table using totally faked never existed crimes to support the criminal actions of at best a con man and a clown
Tomorrow and the day after more open, honest, things will be said, by those who once worked for Trump
He will rant, use fake words fake excuses to? confuse and hide the truth

Dear Hazie,

I'm not going to argue with you.

Lets wait and see what the future brings as
far as Trump's concerned. And which one of us
is proven to be right about that clown. I'm
putting my bets on reputable news sources -
being correct, on the
US intelligence agency investigators, on all
the public records and hacked documents that have
been released and analysed, on at least 100 face-to-face
inter-actions, phone calls, electronic messages with
Russians or Kremlin-linked figures, and at least 51
individual communications - and
Trump's own aides who will undoubtedly spill
the beans in due course. None of which classifies
as "Fake News" and witch-hunts which Trump
would have us believe.

As for being a tad too familiar? Guilty, as
charged! But heck, I like you - and I'm in a
good mood. When that changes - you'll know.

Fake news comes equally from both sides and has been around for millenia in politics. The calls for censorship invariably come from the left whingers calling to silence only the conservative side of politics.

The reality is that most people can sort out the BS, which is why Labor lost.

Shadow Minister,

Labor lost for a variety of complex reasons.
But how's the government doing lately?
Are voters impressed with politicians in general?

I've been watching the Trump trial. The question is asked, "Did Trump withhold the money? Because the word withhold was used to the Democrats it means this is the smoking gun. However a short delay, as he wanted to investigate that the money previously given was appropriately used. However there was no conditions placed on the money which he gave.

CNN and SBS interpreted that because there was a delay that there was pressure on Ukraine to give dirt on Hunter Biden. Fake News.

ABC gave a report of the high tides in Venice supposedly caused by Climate emergency, but this has occurred twice before in previous centuries. ABC gives fake news.